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Thread: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    since many others have been addressed i wanted to talk about this one
    life in prison SOMETIMES stops future crimes it most certainly does not gurantee it, a lot of time inmates commit crimes IN PRISION drugs, weapons, assult and more murder, some times guards etc.

    also what "life in prison" are you talking about. Sometimes life can be 25years with chance of parole in 7 or 13 etc. and sometimes these people commit crimes again when they get out.

    also murder rates are the lowest they have been in 40 years numbers wise, percentage wise it maybe some of the lowest ever, id have to check
    yep percentage wise its the lowest it has ever been since 1960, all the furtherback the first sight i went to had

    i look at the crime rates and i want to expand DP to cover some violent crimes and some rape.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    thats on opinion and others have the opinion it is about safety

    not saying either is right or wrong just saying
    The death penalty doesn't increase the safety of the public anymore than a life sentence w/p parole.

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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The death penalty doesn't increase the safety of the public anymore than a life sentence w/p parole.
    Exactly. Plus it's cheaper, and it avoids the failure mode of State sponsored killing of innocent people. It seems very illogical to support the death penalty in the modern era.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The death penalty doesn't increase the safety of the public anymore than a life sentence w/p parole.
    i guess not if you disregard the people that work in the prison has not public or people that escape or the nut jobs that have followers on the outside or are crime/gang/drug cartel/ terrorist bosses that give orders to people on the outside.

    if you disregard all that stuff i might agree.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Exactly. Plus it's cheaper, and it avoids the failure mode of State sponsored killing of innocent people. It seems very illogical to support the death penalty in the modern era.
    I will leave it at this, Ikari.... If some member of my family were murdered or raped, the person who did it better HOPE the government executes him/her because if I get my hands on them they'll BEG to be killed long before I let them die.

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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Exactly. Plus it's cheaper, and it avoids the failure mode of State sponsored killing of innocent people. It seems very illogical to support the death penalty in the modern era.
    if that was true i would agree but its not
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    i guess not if you disregard the people that work in the prison has not public or people that escape or the nut jobs that have followers on the outside or are crime/gang/drug cartel/ terrorist bosses that give orders to people on the outside.

    if you disregard all that stuff i might agree.
    Escape from maximum security prisons (where people who would commit crimes worthy of a death penalty conviction would often be put) is exceedingly rare and getting rarer. Government officials do not make up the aggregated "public".
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    if that was true i would agree but its not
    The death penalty is cheaper than housing someone for life? The death penalty does not and has not consumed innocent life? I'd like to see a bit of proof for that.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I will leave it at this, Ikari.... If some member of my family were murdered or raped, the person who did it better HOPE the government executes him/her because if I get my hands on them they'll BEG to be killed long before I let them die.
    I do not believe vigilantism is compatible with justice either.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Right or Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Escape from maximum security prisons (where people who would commit crimes worthy of a death penalty conviction would often be put) is exceedingly rare and getting rarer. Government officials do not make up the aggregated "public".
    didnt say it was or wasnt rare all im saying is that it does happen and there for it makes the statement untrue.

    and i think its sad to write off prison guards as nonpublic. Yes technically they are not the public but their lives have value. What about visiting parole board members, or nurses, doctors, therapist, religion clergy, teachers etc are they also nonpublic?

    regardless the statement is false even if its .0001% different
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