Dead Criminals = zero possibility of them committing a crime
Live criminals = a % of them committing a crime
then he wanted to debate WHAT the percentage is, that doesn't matter because one way the percentage does exists and the other way it doesnt.
and the safety by his own words was to "all public including those in the prison"
I would challenge this then:
Dead Criminals = zero possibility of them committing a crime or harming those not locked up
Live criminals = zero possibility of them committing a crime or harming those not locked up
Because within the bounds of this discussion, most people are not including those that are locked up as "society" nor do they care if inmates are harmed by inmates.
because just like I asked, Zyphlin asked and some others what about
parole (this doesnt ably to him because HE said without parole but some other didnt)
visitors/volunteers/interns ie doctors, nurses, clergy, parole board members, etc etc
again are the odds that these people get hurt "probably" low? id GUESS yes but its still a POSSIBILITY vs an IMPOSSIBILITY that they get hurt by living people vs dead.
Like I said my only problem with his statement was its an absolute
its not like in GENERAL he didnt have some valid points, its that the points didnt matter to his factually wrong statement.
Quite frankly I've always found the idea behind the death penalty to be somewhat appalling. The basic idea is punishing murder through murder. That doesn't make much sense does it?
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Second, even though I don't even support that interpretation - you really suck at arguing against it.
Third, I'll repeat this to highlight your double standard. You expect me and everyone else to give you the benefit of the doubt when you make absolute statements, but when I make one and presumably when others do, you latch on to them like they're the holy grail.
"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W. C. Fields
But let me know when you have something of merit. I already answered this, see post 125. repeating it trying to make it more dramatic wont get you the answer you want. So no need to get emotional and over dramatics LOL