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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    It's not a legal issue, his rights weren't violated. But the double-standard is staggering. It's impossible to even count the number of people comparing Bush to Hitler. Yet you can't even use Hitler in a comparison to a situation involving Obama without inciting some huge controversy. I can't honestly imagine this happening if it were Bush instead.
    For there to be a double standard, ESPN would have had to continue to air people who compared Bush to Hitler.
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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For there to be a double standard, ESPN would have had to continue to air people who compared Bush to Hitler.
    Granted, they apparently have a policy of political neutrality in general. So they might have done the same for a Bush/Hitler comparison.
    Apparently they have/ have had a lot of lefties (including Olbermann) in their radio show though, not sure if that counts.

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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Love Hank or hate him - up to you - all of his rowdy friends have settled down anyway (or, was that David Allen Coe?).

    He's a professional spokesperson for a product. If his product drops him because they think he no longer represents them favorably, it's not a first amendment issue. It's a free-market issue. He may have legal recourse, he may not - but it has nothing to do with the Constitution.

    I do think, though, that political "hate" language is accepted by the left when it comes from the left and condemned by the left, in any form, when it comes from the right. Unfortunately, the right is picking up the same bad habit - less convincingly.
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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Love Hank or hate him - up to you - all of his rowdy friends have settled down anyway (or, was that David Allen Coe?).

    He's a professional spokesperson for a product. If his product drops him because they think he no longer represents them favorably, it's not a first amendment issue. It's a free-market issue. He may have legal recourse, he may not - but it has nothing to do with the Constitution.

    I do think, though, that political "hate" language is accepted by the left when it comes from the left and condemned by the left, in any form, when it comes from the right. Unfortunately, the right is picking up the same bad habit - less convincingly.
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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I read on here and some other places that people think that Hanks/1st amendment rights were violated or infringed upon in some what.

    DO you think this is true?

    I do not and cannot see how the correlation is made?

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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I read on here and some other places that people think that Hanks/1st amendment rights were violated or infringed upon in some what.

    DO you think this is true?

    I do not and cannot see how the correlation is made?

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    I didn't know the first amendment right to free speech meant you could use a borporation station's paid-for air time to say whatever you want.

    They didn't gag him and shut him up - they just didn't air it. . . he can talk all he wants. **** - I talk all I want even when no one's around to hear it.

    It's football - a game - not politics and since he tried ot make it into a political springboard I'm glad they shut him up. Everything has a time and place and that was just highly inappropriate and if I was a sports fan I'd find it annoying as hell.
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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    I like Hank Williams, Jr music and when all this blew up I supported him as he has been a very charitable individual.

    But like the Dixie Chicks, why oh why would you want to possibly offend half of the possible audience members?

    It would be like a Target or Sears store putting up political posters and possibly losing half of your audience. They just don't due it because it is ran by a board and thus have many safety stops. Celebs are soley in charge of their own mouths and every so often the filter is off. Just ask Michael "Kramer" Richards how his career is going.

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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Sorry I am late to this party, but at no time was Hank Williams Jr's first amendment rights infringed upon in anyway. He was not silenced nor was he told he has no right to his position or opinion. All that happened is ABC decided not to associate itself with Hank William Jr's opinion. Even if Hank Williams Jr, by contract, agreed to some sort of clause that says such statements are grounds for ending the relationship, that is still not any party invading Hank Williams Jr's rights. Hank Williams was a willing participant in his business affairs and just like any right, it comes with responsibilities. Hank Williams Jr. has every right to speak his mind but is also responsible for what he says, ABC has every right to distance themselves from his position. Until someone can point out how Hank Williams Jr. had his rights taken from him against his will, we have little to discuss here.

    Edit... ABC, ESPN, whoever made the decision.
    Last edited by OrphanSlug; 10-05-11 at 12:49 AM. Reason: Clarification

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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    ESPN's executives seem to be the typical lilly fingered, sunlight avoiding nerds.

    God Bless Hank Jr....He speaks and keeps it real.
    Last edited by dixiesolutions; 10-05-11 at 09:23 AM.

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    Re: Hank Williams Jr., 1st Amendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I read on here and some other places that people think that Hanks/1st amendment rights were violated or infringed upon in some what.

    DO you think this is true?

    I do not and cannot see how the correlation is made?

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    Hank Jr. was absolutely right. Obama does have a lot in common with Hitler. No, he doesn't have gas chambers, but he is a power-hungry monster who is dedicated to destroying capitalism and replacing it with fascism (socialism) and tons of anti-American mandates.

    Thanks, Hank, for calling a spade a spade. ESPN owes you a huge apology.

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