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Thread: Should the United States employ more referendums?

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    Re: Should the United States employ more referendums?

    Referendums, as we see them today are strictly for state issues.
    For there to be a national referndum (on anything), the Constitution would have to be amended.

    This is a represenative republic, not a democracy, for a reason.
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    Re: Should the United States employ more referendums?

    I absolutely support national referendums. For the most part, California referendums have been bills that politicians would never approve, such as stopping legislative salaries when budgets aren't passed on time, etc. The first national referendum I'd like to see is campaign finance reform, where every major candidate gets the same amount of taxpayer money, cannot take private donations, cannot use personal money for campaigning, accounts for every nickle spent and returns the excess immediately after the election. Right now, we have basically the best government money can buy, because everyone in office has bought their way in, and the moment they take office fundraising for re-election takes precedence over doing the people's work.

    Obviously, referendums would have to pass constitutional muster. But damn, we've got to do something. Look at the fools we've got running this country. Something isn't working, and I'm betting it's the fact that the only folks being served by government are the ones who can afford to pay the bribes.

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    Re: Should the United States employ more referendums?

    Wonder what the executive branch would do if there was a referendum to make their retirement system and healthcare provision the same as for other federal employees and they had Medicare instead of their special healthcare plan in retirement? Currently they have a very liberal retirement system that pays as soon as they leave office regardless of age. The federal retirement cannot be drawn until a certain age and has a top limit on the amount that is substantially less than the amount the Presidents, Representatives and Senators receive.

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    Re: Should the United States employ more referendums?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I absolutely support national referendums. For the most part, California referendums have been bills that politicians would never approve, such as stopping legislative salaries when budgets aren't passed on time, etc.
    California's referenda play a big role in its ongoing fiscal problems though. The average voter making a split-second decision at the ballot box will probably vote for whatever feels like a good idea, without thinking through the consequences or opposing arguments. That's how California got a constitutional amendment requiring a supermajority to raise taxes (but not to raise spending). The inevitable result was a large, chronic budget deficit.

    These problems are not limited to California, although the state's referenda provide the best example of the problems.
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    Re: Should the United States employ more referendums?

    Ive been in discussions where its been argued that there is no need for Referendums because with our system you vote for people with your ideals...
    I say nonesense...we get to vote for people that tell us whatever we want to hear to get elected, then they become what they really are...
    I say we need referendums to give the people a voice when the politicians screw us and do what we do not want.

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