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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Trying to label Romney and Christie as "liberal" simply shows how extremist you are. Thank you for displaying that for anyone who didn't already know.
    Are any liberal politicians who identifies themselves as a liberals and actually for the 2nd amendment(meaning they do not support any infringements or any other anti-2nd amendment law), against abortion, against gay marriage, knows that climate change is something that occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are,against Obama care and Romney care, against socialized medicine in any form, and against illegal immigration?
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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are any liberal politicians actually for the 2nd amendment(meaning they do not support any infringements or any other anti-2nd amendment law), against abortion, against gay marriage, knows that climate change is something that occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are,against Obama care and Romney care, against socialized medicine in any form, and against illegal immigration?
    All of those things or just one of them? You'd have to be semi-crazy to be for all of them. Also, the highlighted part... really? Because you say so or 2% of climatologists do? I think you could find plenty of liberals who agree with at least one of those. In fact, Obama's record on gun control has been a conservative wet dream.

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    All of those things or just one of them?
    All of them.

    You'd have to be semi-crazy to be for all of them.
    No you don't. These are just some of the things conservatives support, which is the opposite of what liberals support.

    Because you say so or 2% of climatologists do?
    Climate change has been going on for billions of years on this planet regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.So there is no valid reason to believe that now would be any different.



    In fact, Obama's record on gun control has been a conservative wet dream.
    Obama has a anti-2nd amendment history. So logic would dictate that he would do the same think while president..

    These are things that **** on the 2nd amendment.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/barack_obama.htm#Gun_Control
    Opposed bill okaying illegal gun use in home invasions. (Aug 2008)
    Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
    FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
    April 2008: "Bittergate" labeled Obama elitist. (Apr 2008)
    Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
    Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
    2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)

    Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
    Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
    Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
    Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
    Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
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    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Its likely that Christie, like many other of the top-tier GOP possibilities are seeing the light and deciding that running in 2016 is a better option.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Live Free View Post
    I live in New Jersey and voted for Chris Christie when he ran for Governor.

    Mistake.

    Since Christie has taken office he has done nothing more than issue false promises and go back on the ones he made before he was elected. Due to his policies Camden has lost many of its police officers, Trenton has laid off half of its force and many other police departments have had to cut back on protecting their citizens. Teachers have also been victims of his massive cuts into our education system which have increased our unemployment rate and damaged our young peoples' potential. While small government is effective in many places, the least we can ask of our elected officials is to be honest about what they will do when elected.

    Christie wrote letters to the state PBA and our teachers promising that he would not allow lay offs or cuts if he were elected. This was a lie. Due to his policies crime has risen and cities like Newark, Trenton, Paterson, and Camden are bordering on being absolute hopeless places. People cannot venture outside without the fear of being robbed, raped, or murdered. Newark has laid off Police Officers and has seen a rise in crime that makes it comparable to its days as a crime capital of the country in the early 1990s. Jersey City has also been starved by Christie's policies to the point of having to lay off officers and now has severe gaps in police coverage in what is a dangerous city.

    Not to mention...

    How can we trust a President to make critical decisions, if he couldn't even easily decide if he wanted to be President?
    i like christie for all of the reasons you oppose him

    NJ was spending way beyond its means. rather than getting its budget back in check, the previous politicians kicked that can down the road by doing things such as not funding its pension plan
    year after year
    and the problem was getting more and more unmanageable while the politicians refused to address the real issue: too much spending for the available tax base
    little different than our nation's fiscal mismanagement since reagan ... only without the fed's ability to print money to further postpone our country's day of reckoning

    don't misunderstand me. christie is no diplomat. he is actually a dick; youtubes will put that bullying 'quality' on display. as a union official, i resent his heavy handed dealings with labor. but we need straight shooters in office in these hard times. and christie is nothing if not blunt

    seems preliminary reports indicate christie's 1pm announcement is to say he will not run. that is unfortunate. he was one of the few republicans i might vote for instead of Obama. and i believe there are many in the middle, like me, who would do the same
    that can't be said for romney. as someone mentioned, he is a republican kerry - with the added baggage of being too mormon. un-electable

    i fear palin will now jump in and motivate the teabaggers to nominate her as much as that will cause the great majority of Americans to be forced to re-elect Obama - by default

    the only way the republicans can salvage this election is to give Gary Johnson some air time. like christie, as gov of NM Johnson did what he promised in his campaigns to do. and left the office with the state in a sound fiscal condition
    a fiscal conservative and social liberal, Gary Johnson - again, like christie - would steal the votes of centrist Americans ... votes that will otherwise elect Obama

    looks like Obama will win 2012 only because the republicans cannot find an electable candidate. not unlike the democrats of humphrey, mcgovern, mondale, dukakis, gore, and kerry ...
    the gop needs to wake up and realize that romney is another bob dole - only with less charisma
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its likely that Christie, like many other of the top-tier GOP possibilities are seeing the light and deciding that running in 2016 is a better option.
    most likely correct. i'm curious about the fields of both parties in '16. i tend to doubt Biden will make a go of it. that would make it a wide open race.

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    most likely correct. i'm curious about the fields of both parties in '16. i tend to doubt Biden will make a go of it. that would make it a wide open race.
    I agree, 2016 looks like an interesting year. With Obama likely to be re-elected in 2012, both parties will be wide open. Biden won't run, and it is unlikely that Hilary will run as she will be a bit old (ala John McCain).

    2016 looks like a lot better year for the GOP than 2012 does. However, it will all depend upon what Obama does in a second term and whether the electorate wants to change course....a lot of the potential front running 2016 seem to be banking on 2016 and foregoing 2012.

    2012 is Romney's last chance. He wouldn't be seriously considered in 2016 even if he chose to run again.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    most likely correct. i'm curious about the fields of both parties in '16. i tend to doubt Biden will make a go of it. that would make it a wide open race.
    Elizabeth Warren in 2016 ... let the campaign begin now
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: If Christie runs, will he win the Republican nomination for president?

    Does this video change the opinion of those who want Christie to run for President??



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