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  • A Liberal cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Conservative cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Libertarianl cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Socialist cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Fascist cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Communist cannot be a Christian

    34 44.74%
  • A Centrist or Moderatel cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Monarchist cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • A Despotist cannot be a Christian

    33 43.42%
  • All believers in these ideologies can be Christian

    37 48.68%
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It depends on what one means by "Christian"

    Even christians argue about that the term means
    Defining someone who follows a religion, is like trying to define what's normal!? It varies from person to person or accepted ideas within a set group of people.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    My favorite quote dealing with this comes from Paul:



    When I first read this verse, I was floored. If people lived by this, the church would be so fundamentally different today, I doubt I could predict the different form of it. Amazing wisdom here.

    However, there are many who (in my opinion) wrap Christianity up and complicate it with this or that and forget the one fundamental, that they do get past themselves and judge people when we should be encouraging each other. Ultimately though, while I do not like it, the view that one must hold a certain political principal to be a true Christian does exist and this thread was an attempt in probing it to learn more about what drives these people.
    I hear ya. So many get bogged down in legalism, and in things that aren't even really in the Bible: things that are simply cultural norms rather than moral issues, even. Tiresome.

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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Did you just say Jews and Christians were running Egypt?
    Uhhhhhhh no...


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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We were never wrong about slavery.

    There is nothing immoral or unethical about biblical slavery. It's little different then modern contract labor.
    No. Contractors willingly enter that line of work, they get paid, and they can come and go as they please. Their also exempt from beatings, and being treated as personal property to be inherited. Slavery was never morally acceptable, because it strips a man of every last human right possible. It's disgusting, and inexcusable. From the Bible itself:

    Quote Originally Posted by Leviticus 25:44-46 NIV
    44 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus 21:20-21 NIV
    Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke 12:47-48 NIV
    47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
    These are just three examples. They weren't treated like contractors, they were treated like farm animals to be beaten, bought, and sold.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    When it comes to politics the only ones that can really NOT be Christian are Communists.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    When it comes to politics the only ones that can really NOT be Christian are Communists.
    Actually, they can, and very easily. Communism is a system where there are no social classes, no personal gain, or possession. Jesus was against monetary wealth, and was all about the impoverished, wandering beggar, who had no possessions except the clothes on his back, and a bowl. Any political system could fit right in with Biblical doctrine.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Actually, they can, and very easily. Communism is a system where there are no social classes, no personal gain, or possession. Jesus was against monetary wealth, and was all about the impoverished, wandering beggar, who had no possessions except the clothes on his back, and a bowl. Any political system could fit right in with Biblical doctrine.
    Not communism because part of being a communist is the rejection of religion and the adoption of atheism. So technically no they can't.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Not communism because part of being a communist is the rejection of religion and the adoption of atheism. So technically no they can't.
    Marx and most communists reject religion, but there is nothing about a classless, stateless society that requires no religion.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Not communism because part of being a communist is the rejection of religion and the adoption of atheism. So technically no they can't.
    Educate yourself. "Marxism" began before Karl Marx was a twinkle in his daddies eye.
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    Re: Who cannot be a Christian?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Marx and most communists reject religion, but there is nothing about a classless, stateless society that requires no religion.
    Yeah but were not just talking about a Classless stateless society, were talking about Communism, a specific form of this that does require no religion.
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