View Poll Results: What is the LARGEST cause of increasing health care expenditures in the US?

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  • Increasing Consumer Demand (rising income and population)

    1 2.94%
  • Advancement in Medical Technology

    5 14.71%
  • Cost Insulation from Third Party Payers (Employers, Insurance, Government)

    17 50.00%
  • Employee Based Health Insurance

    0 0%
  • State Mandated Benefits

    3 8.82%
  • Spending on Prescription Drugs

    0 0%
  • Adminstrative Costs (customer service, IT, underwriting)

    2 5.88%
  • Rising Prices in the Health Care Sector

    4 11.76%
  • Aging Population

    2 5.88%
  • Defensive Medicine

    0 0%
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    Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Please answer the poll and provide some reasoning for your answer if you wish. Note: Please select the LARGEST or most prominent cause for the increase of health care expenditure in the US in your opinion.
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Cost insulation.
    It becomes a standard for people who don't have to pay for hardly anything up front, to get the best of what they can and as much of it as they want.
    Medical care facilities and providers, are more than happy to oblige them.
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    In my opinion, I think there's definitely more than one significant reason for high costs, but if I were to list a few of the ones I thought were most responsible, I would go with the following in no particular order:

    1) Increasing Consumer Demand (Aging population and rising prices both actually kinda tie into this)
    2) Advancements in Medical Technology
    3) Employee-based Insurance.

    Edit: Upon looking through the list again, I would actually add that a lot, if not most of these factors are actually interrelated.
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Cost insulation.
    It becomes a standard for people who don't have to pay for hardly anything up front, to get the best of what they can and as much of it as they want.
    Medical care facilities and providers, are more than happy to oblige them.
    Harry, this topic is making me profoundly sick. How about everybody in the forum chip in...send me a few bucks so that I can go to the doc and tell him that talking about health care make me sick?

    Paying cash talks. It reduces the price of care by significant amounts, or so I'm told. Now that would be the perfect world, huh? Maybe I can offer my doc some of my chickens...or go hunt me up a critter or two. Mmmmm, mmmmm. Doc and Ms. Doc could feast out on that. Hey, it use to work.

    So I guess my answer to the problem of rising health care cost....just pay cash. Sure you'll have to sell the car and house, but hey, health care will be cheap. Yeah, you might have to sell a couple of the kiddos too, but what the hell?

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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Harry, this topic is making me profoundly sick. How about everybody in the forum chip in...send me a few bucks so that I can go to the doc and tell him that talking about health care make me sick?

    Paying cash talks. It reduces the price of care by significant amounts, or so I'm told. Now that would be the perfect world, huh? Maybe I can offer my doc some of my chickens...or go hunt me up a critter or two. Mmmmm, mmmmm. Doc and Ms. Doc could feast out on that. Hey, it use to work.

    So I guess my answer to the problem of rising health care cost....just pay cash. Sure you'll have to sell the car and house, but hey, health care will be cheap. Yeah, you might have to sell a couple of the kiddos too, but what the hell?
    That's not at all what I said but thanks for missing the entire point.
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    US healthcare cost ~25% more than any other country's healthcare per capita but is currently 34th from the top in healthcare outcomes and is well below most first-world countries in both years of healthy life and years of life.

    The reason several second world countries have better healthcare outcomes, more years of total life and years of healthy life is the lack of preventive care and early intervention thanks to the lack of universal healthcare. The reason the US healthcare costs so much while delivering so little is the unregulated health insurance and pharmaceutical industries are grotesquely overcharging the US populous.
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Given the US system it would be first the cost insulation. People have access to highly advanced medical treatment (costly) and want it. They dont have to pay for the MRI screen so they might as well take it if it is not too troublesome. The doctors dont have an incentive to keep costs down and probably given certain drug companies an incentive to increase costs.

    Normal prescription drugs would be an aspect of insulation from costs

    The next major aspect in the US would be administrative. Multiple payers means a large amount of paperwork sending bills to various outfights, fighting to get paid for services provided
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    one of the biggest reasons that nobody seems to talk about is how the insurance company chooses to pay its employees but mainly top dogs.

    Its also funny when people act like health care has been on the up rise for YEARS and only once the new healthcare goes into effect it will finally "magically" go up


    I was reading about one of the blue cross blue shield divisions and the CEO increased his salary like 1000% one year, gave himself a matching salary bonus while laying off employees, increasing customer costs WHILE they were losing money????????

    this is an untalked about issue with MANY companies and CEOs the days of just making good money and giving great service / product seem to be over for many CEOs they just milk a company and consumer till theres nothing left and moved on because they get PRAISED for it. Look at that guy he owns a island he must be a great CEO. LOL
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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    You left out my first choice which is frivolous law suits that have caused more tests, defensive medicine, massive raises in the cost of malpractice insurance at every stage of medical treatment, and has driven many OB, GYNs out of the practicing their chosen field of medicine.

    This needs to be a multiple choice poll because it's not just one thing that has caused the costs of medical treatment

    to skyrocket, trust me I know having run up bills you would not believe.

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    Re: Increasing Health Care Expenditures

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    US healthcare cost ~25% more than any other country's healthcare per capita but is currently 34th from the top in healthcare outcomes and is well below most first-world countries in both years of healthy life and years of life.
    Source? Perhaps it costs less because the provider of health care GOVERNMENT doesn't want to put out that much. We have lower "health care outcomes" in the US due in part to the invasion from third world peoples from Central America. Also I belive that the statistics from some of the higher in the list leave out some outcomes due to political reasons. Also since the US is larger in population and is more diverse there is greater tendency for it to revert to the mean.

    The reason several second world countries have better healthcare outcomes, more years of total life and years of healthy life is the lack of preventive care and early intervention thanks to the lack of universal healthcare. The reason the US healthcare costs so much while delivering so little is the unregulated health insurance and pharmaceutical industries are grotesquely overcharging the US populous.
    One doesn't need Universal Health Care for Preventative Care (which is a recent development in medicine to start with) some insurance companies are doing this since it affects their bottom line. Insurance companies and Pharmaceutical companies are some of the most regulated businesses in the US. On a State level for the Insurance companies. And Federal level for the Pharmaceutical companies.
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