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    Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Recent high profile executions have resulted in a resurgence of debate about the death penalty. One thing I'm noticing is that, several times now, I have seen a post by someone who has told me in the past that it's wrong to call abortion murder (because abortion is legal) yet calling an execution murder. I do concede that abortion is not legally defined as murder, but then, wouldn't the same be true of the death penalty?

    So, what do you think? Is carrying out the death penalty murder? Explain why or why not.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    No, as long as it can be proven, without a doubt that the person is guilty of a heinous crime, it is a legitimate form of justice.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    I believe it is murder.
    Its murder by the state.
    The only time i can see the death penalty being used is on convicted war criminals.


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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Recent high profile executions have resulted in a resurgence of debate about the death penalty. One thing I'm noticing is that, several times now, I have seen a post by someone who has told me in the past that it's wrong to call abortion murder (because abortion is legal) yet calling an execution murder. I do concede that abortion is not legally defined as murder, but then, wouldn't the same be true of the death penalty?

    So, what do you think? Is carrying out the death penalty murder? Explain why or why not.
    Depends I suppose. Is murder the unlawful killing of another? In that case, it wouldn't be murder as the death penalty is currently lawful. It's still in a gray area and I can see people making argument to it being so.

    Regardless, I think the best approach with the death penalty would be to end it.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    It depends on how you define murder. If it's following through with a conscious decision to commit homicide, then I would classify execution as murder. If a homicide is committed in self defense or by accident, I wouldn't call it murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    One thing I'm noticing is that, several times now, I have seen a post by someone who has told me in the past that it's wrong to call abortion murder (because abortion is legal) yet calling an execution murder. I do concede that abortion is not legally defined as murder, but then, wouldn't the same be true of the death penalty?
    Given my comment above, we would have to determine what "homicide" is. If homicide is the act of killing a human being, we would have to determine whether or not a zygote or fetus is a human being. We wouldn't have to make this determination with an execution. When does something make the transition from a clump of cells to an actual human being? If the argument is that anything with full human DNA in it is a human, then my saliva and hair follicles should be considered humans right?
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Recent high profile executions have resulted in a resurgence of debate about the death penalty. One thing I'm noticing is that, several times now, I have seen a post by someone who has told me in the past that it's wrong to call abortion murder (because abortion is legal) yet calling an execution murder. I do concede that abortion is not legally defined as murder, but then, wouldn't the same be true of the death penalty?

    So, what do you think? Is carrying out the death penalty murder? Explain why or why not.
    Congratz, you used to perfect example. If you are using the definition of the word murder, then neither executions nor abortions are murder, since both are legal. In both cased it is emotional rhetoric.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    The death penalty is absolutely muder if they execute an innocent man. And given that our justice system is hardly perfect in this country, the possibility of executing even one innocent man is reason enough to ban the policy.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    IMO, not just murder, but premeditated murder. And there is no evidence that I have seen that it is an effective deterrent. I think life in prison without parole is a more effective deterrent. To me it seems just a throwback to humankind's barbaric past that we have not been able to shake loose from, just as with other conservative countries like Iran.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    The only crime about the death penalty is that it is more expensive than imprisoning a man for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Neither the Death Penalty or Abortion are murder due to the fact they are both legal. That of course doesn't man either are right or wrong.
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