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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Blood thirsty I see.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    I think it's a murderer. To me, the government doesn't have the right to kill anybody, unless the person is proven to be a war criminal. I absolutely reject the idea of capital punishment, if someone did something illegal, imprison him. In many cases imprisoning a person can actually be worse than simply killing him.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    The fact that this issue is even up for debate proves that as a people, Americans are not mature enough to realize actions have consequences. While many believe the issue to be emotional, and write as such, what they don't realize is that it is not an emotional issue we're dealing with. The death penalty is a judicial issue. The courts have a duty imposed upon them to prosecute an offender for crimes. Whether or not the public agrees is irrelevant, because the courts are in fact a public institution. Until the Death Penalty's legality is revoked, it is not murder.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Recent high profile executions have resulted in a resurgence of debate about the death penalty. One thing I'm noticing is that, several times now, I have seen a post by someone who has told me in the past that it's wrong to call abortion murder (because abortion is legal) yet calling an execution murder. I do concede that abortion is not legally defined as murder, but then, wouldn't the same be true of the death penalty?

    So, what do you think? Is carrying out the death penalty murder? Explain why or why not.
    Elective at-will abortion, when no other life is in danger, is ethicaly 'murder' because the unborn has not committed and was not convicted of any capitol offense

    The prisoner on death row, was.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Murder is a legal term for unlawful homicide.

    Capital punishment and abortion are both lawful forms of homicide.

    Ergo, neither capital punishment nor abortion are murder.
    Neither was beating your slave to death at one time.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dand4Life View Post
    I think it's a murderer. To me, the government doesn't have the right to kill anybody, unless the person is proven to be a war criminal.
    The Constitution specifically allows the state to depreive someone of their life, so long as they are given due process.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    The Constitution specifically allows the state to depreive someone of their life, so long as they are given due process.
    That's true....


    5th Amendment, which says:

    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    Strange...I just posted this Amendment in another thread...related to another topic.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    That's true....


    5th Amendment, which says:

    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    Strange...I just posted this Amendment in another thread...related to another topic.
    Gotta love the 222 year old document dictating our morals and laws.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Gotta love the 222 year old document dictating our morals and laws.
    Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Legally no.

    But I consider premeditated, intentional killing of another person, outside of warfare, to be murder. Not that I necessarily think its always wrong, just that its only the "law" that creates the distinction.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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