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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Murder is not only illegal, it is immoral. These two things make it distinct from and worse than killing. The death penalty in probably the vast majority of cases is killing, but not murder. But when the inmate facing the penalty is innocent, I consider it murder even though it may be legally sanctioned.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Whats confusing is how easily people excuse justify and stand for the slaughter of an unborn child yet get their silkies twisted over the execution of a murderer. I mean...come on...how twisted do you have to be?

    Yes...this IS a fun game...isnt it.
    What if some rabid anti death penalty opponent survives a home invasion in which everybody in their family is killed but them? Would they experience a change in their believes about death penalty? Would you ever use a phrase like "slaughter of an unborn child" if you woke up in a difference life and in different circumstances? Abortion isn't all black and white... nor is the death penalty. All moral issues have grey areas. Abortion and death penalty really don't have much in common other than that.

    And while you're pointing out irony and using hyperbole, let me throw this out there... I bet you're against the slaughter of unborn children, but for the slaughter of walking breathing people in handcuffs... am I right?

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Considering the embryo is unable to sustain life on its own at that point, I'd say say you're just trying to murk the water with an entirely different issue. You should probably start an abortion poll if you want to talk about abortion.
    If abortion is murder, then so is removing the plug on a life support system...

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Death penalty involves government action and government enforced death.

    Abortion rights is the removal of government from medial and reproductive decisions. Abortion ends a life, but unlike with death penalty, death is not the motive or the main intention of abortion, similarly death is not the intention of war. If we could find a way to end pregnancies without ending life, that would be the ideal course to abort a pregnancy.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    If an innocent is murdered through the death penalty, it isn't on the governments hands, it's on the jury's hands.

    Are we going to imprison 12 people for making a decision based on what they were showed?
    Nonsense. It is the state and/or federal government that has legalized executions for its jurisdiction. The jury had nothing to do with that. Besides, although in some, not all, jurisdictions the jury may be able to recommend a sentence, it is the judge who makes the actual decision.

    If a government does not want capital punishment, it has only to remove execution as an option for its jurisdiction. Easy peasy.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Whats confusing is how easily people excuse justify and stand for the slaughter of an unborn child yet get their silkies twisted over the execution of a murderer. I mean...come on...how twisted do you have to be?

    Yes...this IS a fun game...isnt it.
    Perhaps you didn't mean this post to be repulsive, but it is. Neither abortion nor capital punishment is fun... nor is it a game. Inflammatory rhetoric is not meant to impart reason; it is meant to impart anger. It is also extremely unhelpful in the discussion of serious topics and controversial issues.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Since murder is a legal thing of course it isnt, neither is abortion. Not logic to support otherwise.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    When the state is permitted to kill its citizens, then no-one is safe.
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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Murder is a legal term for unlawful homicide.

    Capital punishment and abortion are both lawful forms of homicide.

    Ergo, neither capital punishment nor abortion are murder.

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    Re: Is the Death Penalty Murder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    When the state is permitted to kill its citizens, then no-one is safe.
    What you mean to say is that when the State fails to protect its citizens from incorrigible criminals by employing the death penalty the first time around, no one is safe.

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