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  • Spend as much my money and effort as is needed to extend or improve life.

    2 15.38%
  • As long as its not my money, spend whatever is needed.

    0 0%
  • Its a personal choice your money, your effort, you choose.

    7 53.85%
  • Its a public choice the public should mandate how much should be spent.

    1 7.69%
  • Ask the one whos life is in need of saving.

    4 30.77%
  • Prioritize according to age.

    1 7.69%
  • Prioritize according to past social contribution.

    0 0%
  • Prioritize according to estimated future social contributions.

    2 15.38%
  • Life is important, but quality of life is not nearly so important.

    2 15.38%
  • Im choosing not to contribute because of the idiocy of the question.

    3 23.08%
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    How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of life?

    Everyone dies eventually, but what amount of money or effort (time) is "reasonable" to spend on saving a life or ensuring quality of that life? Is quality even part of the equation? How much public money or effort should be spent? How much of his family's money or effort should be spent? How much of someone's own effort or money should be spent on saving their own life or quality of life?

    Life is more important than money. But is all life more important than any amount of money?
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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Everyone dies eventually, but what amount of money or effort (time) is "reasonable" to spend on saving a life or ensuring quality of that life? Is quality even part of the equation? How much public money or effort should be spent? How much of his family's money or effort should be spent? How much of someone's own effort or money should be spent on saving their own life or quality of life?

    Life is more important than money. But is all life more important than any amount of money?
    Ultimately, I believe this is the fundamental question we are going to have to resolve as a nation if we are ever to get past the current debate about the appropriate level of social spending. How much death, destruction, and disease are we willing to accept as a society vs the amount of taxation that we will accept.

    Will we accept low taxes and high risk and instability, high taxes and low risk and instability, or something in between? However, ultimately, this is what almost every argument about government spending in DC boils down to at its most basic level (unless its a pure social issue, like abortion)
    Last edited by tacomancer; 09-25-11 at 10:27 AM.

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    I agree completely with megapropman, but I don't think age should be the only criteria. We need to stop salvaging 22 week old fetuses "born early" with absolutely no hope of any quality of life, as well.

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I agree completely with megapropman, but I don't think age should be the only criteria. We need to stop salvaging 22 week old fetuses "born early" with absolutely no hope of any quality of life, as well.
    Harsh comment.

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I agree completely with megapropman, but I don't think age should be the only criteria. We need to stop salvaging 22 week old fetuses "born early" with absolutely no hope of any quality of life, as well.
    Lots of parents may disagree with that comment

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    This question could easily be rewritten to "How much are our lives worth?"

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Lots of parents may disagree with that comment
    Ever been to a home for the severely developmentally disabled? Ever seen a 45 year old man who has never had a conscious thought in his whole life?

    Yes, it's harsh...it's ALL going to be harsh. But if we don't start at least discussing the allocation of resources, someone else will be doing it for us.

    And THEN it will be the cancer patient in his 30's who, with help, could live a long and productive life.

    Not everyone can have all the medical care science can dream up....that's just a fact.

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    This question could easily be rewritten to "How much are our lives worth?"
    Well, yes and no.

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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    It's easy to say that if you can pay for it, you can have it. We all realize that life isn't fair. Some are rich, some are poor. Some are healthy, some are sick. It doesn't matter if you're mean or nice. The rain falls on the honest farmer and the dishonest one whether they need it or not. But, once the decision is taken out of the hands of the random (or natural forces) and put into the hands of a policymaker, how does that policymaker determine a value? I, personally, don't think they can because every policymaker can think of someone he/she wouldn't want to lose or be made to suffer. I don't think a doctor can determine value, either, they can only decide whether or not a person will likely live or die, or whether they'll have quality of life or not. They can't determine the relative value of that life any better than the policymaker.
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    Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

    I think a society should be judged by the way it treats the weakest and most vulnerable and inconvenient of its members.

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