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How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of life?

How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of life?

  • Spend as much my money and effort as is needed to extend or improve life.

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • As long as it’s not my money, spend whatever is needed.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • It’s a personal choice – your money, your effort, you choose.

    Votes: 5 45.5%
  • It’s a public choice – the public should mandate how much should be spent.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Ask the one who’s life is in need of saving.

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Prioritize according to age.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Prioritize according to past social contribution.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Prioritize according to estimated future social contributions.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Life is important, but quality of life is not nearly so important.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I’m choosing not to contribute because of the idiocy of the question.

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • Total voters
    11
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

That would just be a personal opinion though. An outside opinion might say your life is not that bad.

This is where the rubber meets the road. Assuming you are competent, who else's opinion matters?
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I dont want politicians deciding how much money should be spent or not to save my kids life and I certainly dont want a politician with an agenda deciding how much my kid is worth.....and i dont think anyone else would like it either...
Seems theres a move in the USA to bring us backwards instead of forward....I have bad feelings about all this...I think this country has a good chance of really going into turmoil...there was a time in my life when it was about people...now its all about money....no one can convince me that this country isnt gripped in greed now...
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

That would just be a personal opinion though. An outside opinion might say your life is not that bad.

An outside opinion does not have to live with the agony of a terminal illness, of gasping for breath, of suffering as organs fail one after another. Therefore, I submit that it's easy for "an outside opinion" to say that someone else's pain is "not that bad" when said outside opinion has not experienced it. My personal opinion of my quality of life is, quite frankly, the only opinion that matters.
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I dont want politicians deciding how much money should be spent or not to save my kids life and I certainly dont want a politician with an agenda deciding how much my kid is worth.....and i dont think anyone else would like it either...
Seems theres a move in the USA to bring us backwards instead of forward....I have bad feelings about all this...I think this country has a good chance of really going into turmoil...there was a time in my life when it was about people...now its all about money....no one can convince me that this country isnt gripped in greed now...

And again we agree. Who'd a' thunk it! :mrgreen:
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I dont want politicians deciding how much money should be spent or not to save my kids life and I certainly dont want a politician with an agenda deciding how much my kid is worth.....and i dont think anyone else would like it either...
Seems theres a move in the USA to bring us backwards instead of forward....I have bad feelings about all this...I think this country has a good chance of really going into turmoil...there was a time in my life when it was about people...now its all about money....no one can convince me that this country isnt gripped in greed now...

I think they just hid their greed better. The 1990's was the low-water mark, IMO. Nowadays, it's chic to be greedy and we even have whole political parties organized on just that concept.
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

And again we agree. Who'd a' thunk it! :mrgreen:

Really lol...wasnt to long ago you were ready to throw me in a shredder heheh
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I dont want politicians deciding how much money should be spent or not to save my kids life and I certainly dont want a politician with an agenda deciding how much my kid is worth.....and i dont think anyone else would like it either...
Seems theres a move in the USA to bring us backwards instead of forward....I have bad feelings about all this...I think this country has a good chance of really going into turmoil...there was a time in my life when it was about people...now its all about money....no one can convince me that this country isnt gripped in greed now...

Alright, I will agree with you on one point here. If someone is terminally ill (ie medication, machines, anything else is keeping them alive) they should have the choice to end their life. If a person is suicidal they do not have the rite to take their life. This is a momentary lapse in judgement that I do not think the mentally insane have the "rite" to make.
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

Really lol...wasnt to long ago you were ready to throw me in a shredder heheh

I think it was mutual. :lol: I'm a political half-breed. I disagree with everyone at least 50% of the time!
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I think it was mutual. :lol: I'm a political half-breed. I disagree with everyone at least 50% of the time!

I consider myself the same DiAnna...im a little bit of both...and I dont like the far left or right...
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

Alright, I will agree with you on one point here. If someone is terminally ill (ie medication, machines, anything else is keeping them alive) they should have the choice to end their life. If a person is suicidal they do not have the rite to take their life. This is a momentary lapse in judgement that I do not think the mentally insane have the "rite" to make.

In general the mentally unwell will not have and do not have the ability to go through the planning and legal framework that is required for legal suicide.
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

I dont want politicians deciding how much money should be spent or not to save my kids life and I certainly dont want a politician with an agenda deciding how much my kid is worth.....and i dont think anyone else would like it either...
Seems theres a move in the USA to bring us backwards instead of forward....I have bad feelings about all this...I think this country has a good chance of really going into turmoil...there was a time in my life when it was about people...now its all about money....no one can convince me that this country isnt gripped in greed now...

So, what should have happened in the "case of baby K"?

Stephanie Keene,[1] better known by the pseudonym Baby K, was born at Fairfax Hospital in Virginia, USA. At the time of her birth, she was missing most of her brain, including the cortex; only the brainstem had developed during pregnancy, the portion of the brain responsible for autonomic and regulatory functions, such as the control of respiration, the heartbeat and blood pressure.[2] The baby's mother had been notified of her condition following an ultrasound,[1] and had been advised to terminate the pregnancy by her obstetrician and neonatologist[3] but chose to carry the child to term because of "a firm Christian faith that all life should be protected".[4] The hospital's viewpoint was that care provided to the baby would be futile.[4] The mother's viewpoint was that mechanical breathing support must be provided during the baby's periodic respiratory crises.[5] Fairfax Hospital doctors strongly advised a do not resuscitate order for the child, which the mother refused. Stephanie remained on ventilator support for 6 weeks while Fairfax searched for another hospital to which to transfer, but no other hospital was willing to accept her. After the baby was weaned off constant ventilator support, the mother agreed to move the child to a nursing facility, but the baby returned to the hospital many times for respiratory problems.

Baby K - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Re: How much effort & expense is "reasonable" to save someone's life or quality of li

Back to the mentally ill, for a moment. Not all serious mental illnesses are treatable. Some are drug-resistant, etc. I understand the competency issue, but personally, I would not want to roam the streets, dangerous and alone, mumbling about how the CIA was tapping my fillings.

I personally think there should be room to at least discuss legalized assisted suicide for such people, as well as those stricken with Alzheimer's, etc.
 
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