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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So - being a Caucasian white female living in Dixie for most of my life in the US - what ethnicity am I?...
    I don't know, where are your ancestors from?

    Its not my fault that folks in much of the USA have forgotten their roots, while those of us in the Northeast know exactly where we are from.

    .......the ironic thing is that we are one of the first parts of the nation to be settled.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So - being a Caucasian white female living in Dixie for most of my life in the US - what ethnicity am I?

    For how much of a drama or discussion the terminology 'ethnic' and such related terms tends to stir it seems surprising that numerous people don't have one.
    Most likely of mixed european ethnicity. Most Caucasian and african Americans are of mixed ethnicity. Should America no longer accept immigrants and the current various ethnic groups intermingle and have childern rather then stick with their specific ethnic groups (ie german or european, han or asian, etc). Then over a long period of time American would become an ethnic group
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    As I understand it, the human race is divided into three basic physical ethnic groups - Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. What we regard as the various 'ethnicities' are all contained within those three. The indigenous people of North America, for example, are Mongoloid, having crossed the Bering Straits from Asia in prehistoric times. The Australian natives appear to be basically Negroid, and many quite dark skinned people from the Indian sub-continent, and North Africa, are Caucasoid.

    If one is to be punctilious, I do not believe that British, German, Italian, Russian or American, may properly be described as ethnicities, even though we use that term quite liberally. They are simply nationalities, as one may have Englishmen, Americans, or Russians, who are Negroid, or Mongoloid, as well as Caucasoid.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Leo you're correct. I would be considered 1/2 Caucasoid and 1/2 Mongoloid. My nationality is American. Easy.

    @Thunder. What makes you assume that only people in the NE know their roots? I certainly know mine, and can date them back for centuries.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Ethnicity is a social construct, that doesn't make it any less relevant,
    I agree. But it does make it subjective. The boundaries of an ethnicity are mostly defined by whether or not the people who belong to it BELIEVE that they are the same ethnicity. For example, here in the US, many people didn't consider Irish immigrants "white" until about 100 years ago. To many Americans, Italians have only been "white" for about 50 years. Regardless of the actual color of their skin, these people were viewed as outsiders and therefore of a different ethnicity.

    also there are thousands of different ethnicities in China, the Chinese, or Han, are just the majority, a similar situation exists in Japan, with the Yamato people being a dominant ethnic group, but native Japanese also include the Ainu and Ruykyuan peoples.
    These distinctions are mostly culturally based too, as the physical differences between these groups are generally much smaller than the differences within the groups. I agree that you can find subcultures in any nation; for example, here in the US, the Amish have a distinct sense of identity and cohesiveness. Does that make them a separate ethnicity, even though they're mostly descended from the same European cultures as other white Americans? I would say that it does.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Dear White People,


    Unless you are from the Caucasus region or can trace your ancestry back there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus) you are not a Caucasian. Being of Germanic, Italian, English, Irish,etc. descent does not make you a Caucasian. Please stop saying that you are.


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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Defining themselves as "American" in nationality won't be a problem, but being an "American" as in ethnicity overgeneralizes and leaves much confusion as to whether the person is African, Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian, Arab, or any other types of ethnicities.
    Don't you understand?
    But those distinctions are mostly based on superficial traits...and only loosely at that. That's why I think it's more about self-identification and cultural history than anything else. For example, according to the American perception of ethnicity, Snooki is "white" and Beyonce is "black," even though Beyonce clearly has the lighter skin of the two of them.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    In Kenya (and the surrounding countries at least, and west and South African people I've met), we have black and brown designations. When telling someone about someone else I've met (and I can't remember the name), brown or black is most always expected in the description. After that comes tribal looks (or if I can hear a mother tongue). The above looks like noble savage wrapped anti-west blahblah. Kandahar, go to Africa and see if anyone notices your skin color. haha. Did you make that stuff up yourself, or did someone tell you it.

    They don't even notice skin color in Africa.

    haha

    And yes, skin color is related to tribe in some cases. It might not designate an "ethnicity", but it is far more paid attention to here than anything I experienced in the US.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Another question. These two individuals have almost exactly the same skin tone, and even look somewhat alike. Yet they are often considered as belonging to two separate ethnicities. If you didn't already know the answer, do you think you could tell which is "white" and which is "Arab"? If not, I would suggest that this demonstrates that ethnicity is based more on cultural perception than it is on physical characteristics.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Haha - well that's depressing. I'm nothing because I don't know my genetic history because my ancestors were too busy living in a new land rather than keeping a book of who's who. BOOO!

    I declare my own, then - shall I be creative? How about 'void' - sounds fitting. "Void" ethnicity and "Void" race. But that's boring in English. How about 'Lücke' Looks like lucky - but it's German for 'void' . . . I think it's fitting. OR 'Inritus' - which is Latin for 'void'

    "INRITUS TOTUS PRETERITUS" (which means "void of all past")

    That leads to more linguistics fun "PRETERITUS INRITUS HOC FECIT TOTUS" (roughly translating to "The past made this void")

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