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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I have to wonder how much meaning there really is to the concept of “ethnicity”.

    I suppose it's obvious that there is some meaning. Stand me next to a black guy, and you can see there's a difference. I'm a Caucasian, while he's Negroid. These are two different ancestral lines, that carry different and obvious genetic traits.

    But what about President Obama? He's usually identified as “black”, but is he really? His father was a Negro, but his mother was a Caucasian. It would seem to me that this makes him as much “white” as “black”. If you bring culture and heritage into it, he's not really either. By culture and heritage, he has more in common with the average “white” American (being descended through a “white” American mother) than he has with the average “black” American (being descended through a father who was “black”, but not an American at all). But in fact, he has less in common culturally with either the average “black” American or the average “white” American than the average “black” and “white” Americans have with each other.

    Of course, here in America, it happens all the time that people of different ethnic backgrounds marry, and have children. I wonder how far away the day is that there will be so much of the population composed of so many different mixed ethnic backgrounds that it ceases to be possible to meaningfully classify most people into specific ethnic groups.

    I'm already prepared for that day. When faced with a form that asks for my race, I nearly always check the “other” box and fill in my correct race: “Human”.
    Nice to see that you live in the good old state of 1950. Unless you are from the Caucasus region (Caucasus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) you are not a Caucasian. Please stop saying that you are.

    On topic, no, American is not an ethnicity. It is not a minority group with in a larger population. American is a nationality.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No... AMERICANS are all born here in the United States. We do share a common culture, custom, language, dress, and history....
    wrong. someone who is born abroad and becomes an American-citizen, is an American.

    we do not all share a common history, nor dress, culture, foods, etc.

    there are foods that are typical of New England while not typical of Texas. There are customs typical of Oregon that are not typical in Cape May, NJ.

    nevermind the clear fact that we do not share a common origin.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Metaphorically, sure. In American intellectual thought from the 19th century onward, there has most certainly been the notion that one would strip away one's ancestral past in favor of creating a "new race."
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Ethnicity:
    noun, plural -ties.
    1. ethnic traits, background, allegiance, or association.
    2. an ethnic group: Representatives of several ethnicities were present.

    Ethnic or Ethnical:

    — adj

    1. relating to or characteristic of a human group having racial, religious, linguistic, and certain other traits in common

    2. relating to the classification of mankind into groups, esp on the basis of racial characteristics

    3. denoting or deriving from the cultural traditions of a group of people: the ethnic dances of Slovakia

    4. characteristic of another culture: the ethnic look ; ethnic food

    — n
    5. chiefly ( US ), ( Austral ) a member of an ethnic group, esp a minority group
    [C14 (in the senses: heathen, Gentile): from Late Latin ethnicus, from Greek ethnikos, from ethnos race]
    usage: Referring to a person as an ethnic is broadly acceptable in the US, Australia and Canada, but could well cause offence in the UK and elsewhere

    noun, plural -ties for 1, 2, 5, 6.
    1. the status of belonging to a particular nation, whether by birth or naturalization: the nationality of an immigrant.

    Nationality:

    2. the relationship of property, holdings, etc., to a particular nation, or to one or more of its members: the nationality of a ship.

    3. nationalism.

    4. existence as a distinct nation; national independence: a small colony that has just achieved nationality.

    5. a nation or people: the nationalities of the Americas.

    American is a nationality, your race is your ethnicity.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chenoa View Post
    ... American is a nationality, your race is your ethnicity.....
    Err....not correct.

    White people are not an ethicity. Nor are Africans. Nor are Asians.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Err....not correct.

    White people are not an ethicity. Nor are Africans. Nor are Asians.
    Caucasion would be your race (of germanic descent as an example) would be your ethnicity

    Race and ethnicity in the United States Census, as defined by the Federal Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the United States Census Bureau, are self-identification data items in which residents choose the race or races with which they most closely identify, and indicate whether or not they are of Hispanic or Latino origin (ethnicity).[1][2]

    The racial categories represent a social-political construct for the race or races that respondents consider themselves to be and "generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country."[3] OMB defines the concept of race as outlined for the US Census as not "scientific or anthropological" and takes into account "social and cultural characteristics as well as ancestry", using "appropriate scientific methodologies" that are not "primarily biological or genetic in reference."[4] The race categories include both racial and national-origin groups.[5]

    Race and ethnicity are considered separate and distinct identities, with Hispanic or Latino origin asked as a separate question. Thus, in addition to their race or races, all respondents are categorized by membership in one of two ethnicities, which are "Hispanic or Latino" and "Not Hispanic or Latino".
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    You're deliberately nitpicking.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Had to go with Nationality on this one my friends. No reasonable way to guide the argument to "American" being an ethnicity. Well, said another way if one were to argue well that "American" is an ethnicity then I'll go a step further and suggest that applies to the State, Local Level, even your house for that matter. Or, the slippery slope argument. Besides, why would we want "American" to be an ethnicity anyway? Can't imagine that being good for all the legislation on the books, right now, having to do with one's ethnicity (all of which comes with a series of consequences.)

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chenoa View Post
    Caucasion would be your race (of germanic descent as an example) would be your ethnicity

    You're deliberately nitpicking.
    Caucasian is a race. German is an ethnicity.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Caucasian is a race. German is an ethnicity.
    So - being a Caucasian white female living in Dixie for most of my life in the US - what ethnicity am I?

    For how much of a drama or discussion the terminology 'ethnic' and such related terms tends to stir it seems surprising that numerous people don't have one.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Americans are not an ethnic group, but a national one and a cultural group.

    Germans can be ethnic cultural and a national group (Germany does have sub ethnic and cultural groups ie Bavarian)

    Chinese are national, cultural and ethnic group/s

    Ethnic groups are dependant on ones genetic ancestry. While cultural and national groups are dependant on ones location and can be choosen. One can not choose their ethnic group
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