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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    I suspect that American culture is more obvious to furriners.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I suspect that American culture is more obvious to furriners.
    Speaking as a furriner with more than a passing interest in American culture. There's no single American culture, it's a country of many different cultures, and to claim America needs "a UNIFIED and DISTINCT AMERICAN Culture" is a exercise in futility as you try to decide which one is American, and why all the others aren't.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Speaking as a furriner with more than a passing interest in American culture. There's no single American culture, it's a country of many different cultures, and to claim America needs "a UNIFIED and DISTINCT AMERICAN Culture" is a exercise in futility as you try to decide which one is American, and why all the others aren't.
    There is American culture, but we are not a seperate ethnicity. The same is with Mexico, as I misspoke.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    ....and to claim America needs "a UNIFIED and DISTINCT AMERICAN Culture" is a exercise in futility as you try to decide which one is American, and why all the others aren't.
    No it's not. At least not for those of us who comprehend what this nation was intended to be. Of course, assuming that proper culture was in place we wouldn't be having this conversation, because there wouldn't be any communication between the USA and other countries, nevermind travel.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No it's not. At least not for those of us who comprehend what this nation was intended to be. Of course, assuming that proper culture was in place we wouldn't be having this conversation, because there wouldn't be any communication between the USA and other countries, nevermind travel.
    You're trying to tell me the cultural differences between the north and south of your country wouldn't have happened if America pursued a total isolationist policy?
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Speaking as a furriner with more than a passing interest in American culture. There's no single American culture, it's a country of many different cultures, and to claim America needs "a UNIFIED and DISTINCT AMERICAN Culture" is a exercise in futility as you try to decide which one is American, and why all the others aren't.
    I don't think that unified means the same as homogenous.
    But I think that there're things which are seen as distinctly American.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No it's not. At least not for those of us who comprehend what this nation was intended to be. Of course, assuming that proper culture was in place we wouldn't be having this conversation, because there wouldn't be any communication between the USA and other countries, nevermind travel.
    why should there be no communication nor travel between the USA and other nations?

    I am starting to believe that ALL of these insane & ridiculous posts by you are just one big joke, and you are simply lampooning your vision of the most extremist right-winger possible.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Is an American who does not speak German, never been to Germany and is not Lutheran ethnically German?
    Is an American who does not speak Swahili, never been to Kenya and is not a Muslim ethnically Kenyan?
    Is an American who does not speak Mandarin, never been to China and is not an atheist ethnically Chinese?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    What are the limits on the common ancestry thing?

    How large of a time period does the ancestry have to cover?
    There have been folks from all over the world living here for hundreds of years? How long until the 6th generation descendants of Asian folks, the 6th generation descendants of African folks and the 6th generation descendants of European folks are all seen as having American ancestry?
    Does it take 7 generations? 3? 100? Or what?

    How large of a geographic area can be considered as a part of "common ancestry"? Do the Irish share a common ancestry w/ the Dutch? Iirc, there was some significant contact between the groups. Do the Spanish share common ancestry with Mauritanians?


    It seems to me that at some point these limits are arbitrary.
    They are certainly arbitrary, but it is still one of the characteristics of an ethnicity, and I don't think we've reached that point in our miniscule 235 (or whatever) years of being a very pro-immigration country.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    They are certainly arbitrary, but it is still one of the characteristics of an ethnicity, and I don't think we've reached that point in our miniscule 235 (or whatever) years of being a very pro-immigration country.
    So, where are the limits?
    If you know that the US hasn't reached the limits yet, then there must be some awareness of where the limits lie.

    How will you be able to tell when American becomes and ethnicity by your definition?

    Is an American who does not speak German, never been to Germany and is not Lutheran ethnically German because of his last name?
    Is an American who does not speak Swahili, never been to Kenya and is not a Muslim ethnically Kenyan because of his last name?
    Is an American who does not speak Mandarin, never been to China and is not an atheist ethnically Chinese because of his last name?
    I may be wrong.

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