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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    If "American" is a race then there are alot of self hating Americans out there.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    If "American" is a race then there are alot of self hating Americans out there.
    No, not really. There are just a whole lot of people who should not be calling themselves Americans because they only meet half of the criteria. They were born here, but their allegiance is NOT to this country.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, not really. There are just a whole lot of people who should not be calling themselves Americans because they only meet half of the criteria. They were born here, but their allegiance is NOT to this country.
    So by ethnicity you mean ideology?
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You know - my kid's school is doing some sort of special curriculum that discusses cultures and ethnicity around the world - and one homework assignment was to interview family members and write about their Ethnicity.

    I didn't know what to put, either - so we didn't do that assignment.
    what? you don't know where your family came from? probably the point of the assignment was encourage kids to know their backgrounds, why would "we" not do the assignment? i remember being in grade school and having the same sort of assignment, and it was downright fun to talk with my grandparents about their history.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    This is without question truly one of most bizarre polls to date I congratulate you drz-400 this one takes the cake.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    So by ethnicity you mean ideology?
    To me ideology is part of it, Bardo. Then again I'm a Nationalist through-and-through, so I probably see this very differently than most people do.

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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    To me ideology is part of it, Bardo.
    I'll have to disagree.

    My family ancestors made it to America in the 18th century, so I'm something like a 9-10th generation American. However, I'm not an American nationalist and I don't believe you have to be an Americanist to be an American.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    . An example

    Lets say 10 000 ethnically Han Chinese move to Ireland. They adopt all Irish cultural traditions, however they only marry and have childern with genetically Han Chinese, and so do their childern, generation after generation. Would anyone identify them as being ethnically Irish?
    I would say yes.
    There are Black Jews in Africa, that are considered part of the Jewish Ethnic group.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    . An example

    Lets say 10 000 ethnically Han Chinese move to Ireland. They adopt all Irish cultural traditions, however they only marry and have childern with genetically Han Chinese, and so do their childern, generation after generation. Would anyone identify them as being ethnically Irish?
    Probably not...but only because they happened to look sufficiently different, and that just happens to coincide with the perception of ethnicity in Anglophonic countries. Ask the same question, but substitute Iranian immigrants for Chinese immigrants. Would anyone identify THEIR descendants as being ethnically Irish? I would say yes.
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    Re: Is American an Ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what? you don't know where your family came from? probably the point of the assignment was encourage kids to know their backgrounds, why would "we" not do the assignment? i remember being in grade school and having the same sort of assignment, and it was downright fun to talk with my grandparents about their history.
    It wasn't a family-history project like a family tree sort of thing. It was an ethnicity project. As we've discussed: we do not have an ethnicity.

    I have no clue where our grandparents came from when they immigrated and before they all eventually passed away they made no such effort to enlighten anyone. So even when we do family-tree type things it doesn't go back very far. The families immigrated from various countries - which ones we don't know - during WWII and that's all we've got.

    But - no - no ethnicity to speak of.
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