View Poll Results: Is Romneycare Mitt Romney's Waterloo?

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I guess I have to go into intricate detail with everything I post, eh? I would think I didn't have to clarify that the mandate involves those who own and drive cars.

    You can't say there are people who don't own and operate their bodies.
    We generally agree on things it seems, but this isn't just a case of not being complete. So what happens if I'm a 20 year old healthy male and decide I do not need health care just like those in NYC have decided they do not need auto insurance because they have no car?

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Romneycare won't do him in, but the media will.

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    We generally agree on things it seems, but this isn't just a case of not being complete. So what happens if I'm a 20 year old healthy male and decide I do not need health care just like those in NYC have decided they do not need auto insurance because they have no car?
    The argument is invalid because of ownership. You can choose not to own a car, but you can't choose not to use your body.
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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The argument is invalid because of ownership. You can choose not to own a car, but you can't choose not to use your body.
    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I'm choosing to not use health care.

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    I don't see Romneycare as a huge deal. The overall impact in Mass brought slight gains in the coverage for a somewhat high cost. Hardly my idea of a good legislation, but the other candidates aren't proposing anything much better.

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I'm choosing to not use health care.
    Car insurance covers the car against catastrophic accidents.
    Health insurance covers the body.

    You can choose not to have your car fixed if you're in an accident.
    You can choose not to have your body fixed if you get cancer.

    But if you own and use a car, you must insure it by legal requirement.
    It is completely justifiable, therefore, to say that if you use your body you must insure it.
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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Car insurance covers the car against catastrophic accidents.
    Health insurance covers the body.

    You can choose not to have your car fixed if you're in an accident.
    You can choose not to have your body fixed if you get cancer.

    But if you own and use a car, you must insure it by legal requirement.
    It is completely justifiable, therefore, to say that if you use your body you must insure it.
    I'm 50 and I have not done anything that would have caused me to need health insurance since I was a kid.

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Will Romneycare destroy Mitt Romney's electability in the Republican primary?

    As far as I'm concerned, he could be Obama lite, or perhaps worse--a Democrat in Republican clothing.

    His economic record in "Taxachucetts" is deplorable.

    Since repeal of Obamacare would be a top priority for our next president, I could never vote for anyone who created the same kind of monster he needs to slay.

    Do you agree?
    No. Because Republicans don't actually have a problem with anything in it, other than the Affordable Care Act has Obama's name on it. The Republicans suddenly discovered they had a principled objection to the individual mandate at precisely the moment Obama included it in the ACA. Up until then, an individual mandate was not only acceptable to Republicans, it was part of GOP orthodoxy. Hell, the individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation. John McCain ran on a very similar health care platform in 2008 (complete with individual mandates and "death panels") and got 47% of the vote including the vast majority of Republicans. It was barely even an issue.

    I have no doubt that Republicans will get over their *ahem* principled objections to Romneycare and get behind him if he's the nominee. It won't even be that hard for him to pull it off. All he needs to do is what he's already doing: Split some hairs to show how it's marginally different from Obamacare, and maybe start calling his individual mandate by some less-threatening euphemism. And most Republicans will accept that, because I don't think that very many of them actually give a damn about any specific part of the Affordable Care Act or Romneycare.
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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. Because Republicans don't actually have a problem with anything in it, other than the Affordable Care Act has Obama's name on it. The Republicans suddenly discovered they had a principled objection to the individual mandate at precisely the moment Obama included it in the ACA. Up until then, an individual mandate was not only acceptable to Republicans, it was part of GOP orthodoxy. Hell, the individual mandate was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation. John McCain ran on a very similar health care platform in 2008 (complete with individual mandates and "death panels") and got 47% of the vote including the vast majority of Republicans.
    Hillary would likely disagree with you.

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    Re: Will Romneycare destroy Romney's electability?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm 50 and I have not done anything that would have caused me to need health insurance since I was a kid.
    And my dad has never been in a car accident.

    Doesn't mean it won't happen.
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