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Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher taxes?

Should the rich pay higher taxes?


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Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Yea and then we you account for refundable tax credits, a lot of people still pay little to no, even negative taxes.
In total.



Bull.
You haven't accounted for refundable tax credits, which reduce a person's total effective tax rate into the negative.

Define, "a lot of people", that get more benefits than the amount they pay in taxes, and please provide a link to back it up.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Just to further support my point.

IRS said:
Preview of 2011 Tax Year

Earned Income and adjusted gross income (AGI) must each be less than:

$43,998 ($49,078 married filing jointly) with three or more qualifying children
$40,964 ($46,044 married filing jointly) with two qualifying children
$36,052 ($41,132 married filing jointly) with one qualifying child
$13,660 ($18,740 married filing jointly) with no qualifying children
Tax Year 2011 maximum credit:

$5,751 with three or more qualifying children
$5,112 with two qualifying children
$3,094 with one qualifying child
$464 with no qualifying children

Preview of 2011 EITC Income Limits, Maximum Credit Amounts and Tax Law Updates

The highlighted portion is the refundable tax credit rate for tax year 2011.
Meaning that, if you fall into the child/income guidelines you can get a check mailed to you from the IRS for the amount listed.
In actuality, it can be much more with the other refundable credits available.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

one day atlas will shrug and all the teat suckers are gonna wonder where the milk went

Agreed. They will also be wondering why their tax rates increased.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Agreed. They will also be wondering why their tax rates increased.

true, when the rich stop avoiding taxes, those who are net tax consumers will have to start paying more taxes
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

How is it the right thing to do?
Just because a majority supports it, doesn't automatically make it right.

Because it is not right that the wealthiest pay a lower percentage that working stooges. Is it even really a question in your mind? "Should the wealthiest pay at least as high a percentage in federal taxes as middle-income earners?"


HELL YES!


Why aren't they already!?
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

How is it the right thing to do?
Just because a majority supports it, doesn't automatically make it right.


ps - update on the majority supporting it. AYUP, YES THEY DO!


Updated Tax Polls
19 sep 2011
posted by bruce bartlett

I have previously posted a table showing that people support raising taxes as part of deficit reduction by a 2-to-1 margin over the Grover Norquist/Club for Growth/Tea Party position that the deficit must be reduced only by spending cuts without a penny of higher taxes. In light of President Obama's new budget plan, which includes higher taxes, I am posting an updated table, including a poll on Friday showing that three-fourths of people support higher taxes and only 21 percent support the doctrinaire right-wing position.

more: Updated Tax Polls | Capital Gains and Games
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

true, when the rich stop avoiding taxes, those who are net tax consumers will have to start paying more taxes


Like the Red States, you mean?
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Because it is not right that the wealthiest pay a lower percentage that working stooges. Is it even really a question in your mind? "Should the wealthiest pay at least as high a percentage in federal taxes as middle-income earners?"


HELL YES!


Why aren't they already!?

they never do-not on like income and they pay far more actual dollars

Obama is merely pandering to the resentful
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Like the Red States, you mean?

that is one of the truly moronic arguments that the income redistributionists use

tell me

Is Ohio a red state?
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

they never do-not on like income and they pay far more actual dollars

Obama is merely pandering to the resentful


Huh. That would be north of 75% of Americans. Guess we're all pretty much pissed at the coddling of the super-rich. Enough already!
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

that is one of the truly moronic arguments that the income redistributionists use

tell me

Is Ohio a red state?


Purple state. And it's only moronic if you don't understand math. :D
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Huh. That would be north of 75% of Americans. Guess we're all pretty much pissed at the coddling of the super-rich. Enough already!

super rich like tax hikes. it cements their status and increases their power by increasing the power of the government which they basically control. it also screws over the merely wealthy-those who are targeted for these tax hikes but who don't run the government or control the economy.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Purple state. And it's only moronic if you don't understand math. :D

Its still moronic and I understand math very well though the last time I really studied math was as a freshman in college (though I did get a 5 on the BC calc AP exam:lamo)
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

super rich like tax hikes. it cements their status and increases their power by increasing the power of the government which they basically control. it also screws over the merely wealthy-those who are targeted for these tax hikes but who don't run the government or control the economy.


Win win for all of us then. We want their taxes raised, and they want them raised too. There you go.

Wonder who the moronic 21% are, pushing for the 0.03% to pay a lower share of income in federal taxes than they do :rofl:
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Its still moronic and I understand math very well though the last time I really studied math was as a freshman in college (though I did get a 5 on the BC calc AP exam:lamo)


So, then, you're one of those, that KNOW what they're saying is a bunch of crap, but say it anyway? Bachmann-esque, ey?
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Win win for all of us then. We want their taxes raised, and they want them raised too. There you go.

Wonder who the moronic 21% are, pushing for the 0.03% to pay a lower share of income in federal taxes than they do :rofl:

smart people who are not blinded by envy understand that no matter how much you tax the top 1-5% there is not enough money to pay for the bloated government that has expanded mainly due to the wishes of an indolent middle class

the only way to avoid a Greece style melt down is massive cuts in spending which of course will kill the dems' ability to win elections since their main stock in trade is buying the votes of many pauls by robbing us who are peters.

Dems desperately want tax hikes on the rich (who are not a big voting bloc) so they can tell the teat suckers that the milk will continue to flow and the new taxes on the rich will pay for it and NOT increase the deficit (which of course is a lie)

Dems need tax hikes to convince the weakminded that they are actually paying for the stuff they buy your votes will
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

So, then, you're one of those, that KNOW what they're saying is a bunch of crap, but say it anyway? Bachmann-esque, ey?

you are making being wrong a rather frequent habit.

its an idiotic claim you made-states aren't the issue, people are and the dems' most avid constituents are net tax consumers
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Wow who wouldve thought this thread would start a firestorm of whining..<smirk> I put other...should be a balanced approach...dont raise taxs on the rich...raise taxs on everyone by letting the bush tax cuts expire and cutting further spending
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Can everyone please shut the hell up about "hedge fund managers" and what-not. If you just want to put your foot on the neck of the stock market, just have them tax capital gains as income.

I'm tired of seeing it over 7K anyway. Let's just dry up the accumulation of reinvested wealth.

That'll show that blood sucking "hedge fund managers".
Those hedge fund managers use computers to make thousands of trades per second. A penny per trade adds up quickly.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Wow who wouldve thought this thread would start a firestorm of whining..<smirk> I put other...should be a balanced approach...dont raise taxs on the rich...raise taxs on everyone by letting the bush tax cuts expire and cutting further spending

If you want a balanced approach where everyone feels the pain let the Bush tax cuts expire in their entirely. That would get to a savings of $3 trillion and we could stop all of those painful cuts that Obama is proposing to exact on the middle class.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

smart people who are not blinded by envy understand that no matter how much you tax the top 1-5% there is not enough money to pay for the bloated government that has expanded mainly due to the wishes of an indolent middle class

the only way to avoid a Greece style melt down is massive cuts in spending which of course will kill the dems' ability to win elections since their main stock in trade is buying the votes of many pauls by robbing us who are peters.

Dems desperately want tax hikes on the rich (who are not a big voting bloc) so they can tell the teat suckers that the milk will continue to flow and the new taxes on the rich will pay for it and NOT increase the deficit (which of course is a lie)

Dems need tax hikes to convince the weakminded that they are actually paying for the stuff they buy your votes will


Who's blinded by envy? If we're blinded, it's by rage. Why the **** shouldn't these people pay as high a percentage as middle income earners? What in God's name is your justification for letting them pay a lower percentage?

As to a Greece-style meltdown, you are talking out of your ass. There is no short-term debt crisis in America. The wingers made that **** up and you bought it hook, line, and sinker. The market is PAYING us to hold their money. We have a long-term structural problem, but absolutely NO danger of a Greece-style meltdown ... well, that is as long as the crazy Tea Party is kept in check. They're the only danger we face, fiscally, in the short-term.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

you are making being wrong a rather frequent habit.

its an idiotic claim you made-states aren't the issue, people are and the dems' most avid constituents are net tax consumers


heh~


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Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Who's blinded by envy? If we're blinded, it's by rage. Why the **** shouldn't these people pay as high a percentage as middle income earners? What in God's name is your justification for letting them pay a lower percentage?

As to a Greece-style meltdown, you are talking out of your ass. There is no short-term debt crisis in America. The wingers made that **** up and you bought it hook, line, and sinker. The market is PAYING us to hold their money. We have a long-term structural problem, but absolutely NO danger of a Greece-style meltdown ... well, that is as long as the crazy Tea Party is kept in check. They're the only danger we face, fiscally, in the short-term.

its a lie
This year, households making more than $1 million will pay an average of 29.1 percent of their income in federal taxes, including income taxes, payroll taxes and other taxes, according to the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank.
Households making between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay an average of 15 percent of their income in federal taxes.
Lower-income households will pay less. For example, households making between $40,000 and $50,000 will pay an average of 12.5 percent of their income in federal taxes. Households making between $20,000 and $30,000 will pay 5.7 percent.
The latest IRS figures are a few years older — and limited to federal income taxes — but show much the same thing. In 2009, taxpayers who made $1 million or more paid on average 24.4 percent of their income in federal income taxes, according to the IRS.
Those making $100,000 to $125,000 paid on average 9.9 percent in federal income taxes. Those making $50,000 to $60,000 paid an average of 6.3 perce
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

its a lie
This year, households making more than $1 million will pay an average of 29.1 percent of their income in federal taxes, including income taxes, payroll taxes and other taxes, according to the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank.
Households making between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay an average of 15 percent of their income in federal taxes.
Lower-income households will pay less. For example, households making between $40,000 and $50,000 will pay an average of 12.5 percent of their income in federal taxes. Households making between $20,000 and $30,000 will pay 5.7 percent.
The latest IRS figures are a few years older — and limited to federal income taxes — but show much the same thing. In 2009, taxpayers who made $1 million or more paid on average 24.4 percent of their income in federal income taxes, according to the IRS.
Those making $100,000 to $125,000 paid on average 9.9 percent in federal income taxes. Those making $50,000 to $60,000 paid an average of 6.3 perce

I'll remind you of this the next time you say 47% don't pay FIT at all.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I'll remind you of this the next time you say 47% don't pay FIT at all.

they don't in terms of federal income taxes

look it up
 
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