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Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher taxes?

Should the rich pay higher taxes?


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Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I voted other. I don't believe in soaking the "rich". You'd have to raise the tax bracket to over 35% and I don't for one second believe that brackets wouldn't be raised on everyone.

I think the brackets HAVE to be raised on everyone! There aren't enough rich people to pay for everything Obama wants. That kind of money can only come from the great middle class masses. Those who aren't paying anything will have to chip in a few bucks. Those who are paying will have to pay a few percent more.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Thats understandable, but there's no reason why the rich can't pay a little bit more than everyone else.

And there's no reason why they ought to.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I think the brackets HAVE to be raised on everyone! There aren't enough rich people to pay for everything Obama wants. That kind of money can only come from the great middle class masses. Those who aren't paying anything will have to chip in a few bucks. Those who are paying will have to pay a few percent more.

I don't have to like it! :)
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Can everyone please shut the hell up about "hedge fund managers" and what-not. If you just want to put your foot on the neck of the stock market, just have them tax capital gains as income.

I'm tired of seeing it over 7K anyway. Let's just dry up the accumulation of reinvested wealth.

That'll show that blood sucking "hedge fund managers".
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Can everyone please shut the hell up about "hedge fund managers" and what-not. If you just want to put your foot on the neck of the stock market, just have them tax capital gains as income.

I'm tired of seeing it over 7K anyway. Let's just dry up the accumulation of reinvested wealth.

That'll show that blood sucking "hedge fund managers".


No..........
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Can everyone please shut the hell up about "hedge fund managers" and what-not. If you just want to put your foot on the neck of the stock market, just have them tax capital gains as income.

I'm tired of seeing it over 7K anyway. Let's just dry up the accumulation of reinvested wealth.

That'll show that blood sucking "hedge fund managers".

Not sure people are talking about capital gains when speaking about hedge fund managers. Rather there is discussion as to when they are paid is it called ordinary income or carried interest.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Yeah, I'm rather sure. After all, it's usually the simple minds referring to these people.

See a couple posts back.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I don't know anyone who is asking them to pay 50% or higher. I'd be asking for closer to 38 to 40%.

On another thread
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/108655-should-buffett-rule-made-law.html#post1059806848

And let me ask you something, do you think you could support your family if you could only get a job that pays less than $20,000 a year, and then have to pay 20%+ of that to the government? I object to putting someone who already is in poverty that much further bellow the poverty line.

Which is why the poor should pay a lower tax rate and the rich, who can afford it, should pay a higher rate.
A lot of poor people making less than 20,000 a year have families and are able to support their families. I do not know about your city but mine does have low income housing as well as a lot of apartments that are all bills paid for under 600-500 a month.

The government has a serious spending problem and the only way to correct that is to make drastic cuts.
 
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you must not have spent much time at food shelters. half those people were dressed better and driving better vehicles than I was. when michele obama goes to work at a soup kitchen, all the "customers" take pictures of her... with their iPhones.

I volunteer at food shelters 2-3 times a month. Your statement about Michele Obama may be correct, but your generalization about these people is highly inaccurate. I can tell neither you nor Cephus volunteer at food shelters. Otherwise you'd know the look of sheer desperation in these people's eyes, as the meal you are feeding them in many cases is the only one they get all day. And you'd know the feeling of your heart being broken when you see how many kids have been effected by this economy.

Is it really so hard for you to understand that "officially" the unemployment rate is 9.1%, but there are so many more who are "unofficially" unemployed and even more who are underemployed? You can claim all these people are "lazy" or "stupid" as many conservatives have blindly said in the past. But it is more difficult out there than you could know.



I will say it again, I hope you will gain a little humility.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

You have to remember under Eisenhower, the rich paid 90% and lots of people want to put it right back there.

Could we see these bills you speak of?
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Oh Catawba - don't let us down now. You're more aware of reality than that :)

If you think I am wrong, disprove my statement.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I picked other. The rich should pay the same percentage of income tax as everybody else does and preferable that should be a flat rate with no deductions.

Forty-seven percent of the people pay no income tax. Are you saying the rich should pay no income tax? :roll:
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Thats understandable, but there's no reason why the rich can't pay a little bit more than everyone else.

Most often, they do. They pay the same on capital gains, but they pay more income taxes than most people and they pay more to Social Security than most people do.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Can everyone please shut the hell up about "hedge fund managers" and what-not. If you just want to put your foot on the neck of the stock market, just have them tax capital gains as income.

I'm tired of seeing it over 7K anyway. Let's just dry up the accumulation of reinvested wealth.

That'll show that blood sucking "hedge fund managers".

Hmmmm. I guess that won't leave my retirement income fixed. Ouch! Please stop telling them this. You may be hazardous to my health. :shock:
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Forty-seven percent of the people pay no income tax. Are you saying the rich should pay no income tax? :roll:

I am saying everybody should pay the same income tax percentage rate regardless of income and there should be no deductions, tax credits or what ever the hell else you want to call them. This includes those nearly the 50% percent who don't pay any kind of taxes but are so quick to jump of the tax the **** out of the rich band wagon.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Forty-seven percent of the people pay no income tax. Are you saying the rich should pay no income tax? :roll:

If 47% of people pay no income tax there has to be at least 1 person here who didnt pay income taxes! Can someone please tell me and my family how you dirty dogs got away with it!!! Please tell me!!!
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

No..........

Why attack hedge fund managers though?
They average hedge fund manager does not make millions or billions a year.
They do earn a 6 figure salary but going after a singular group of people, as if they were all that is wrong with a country is retarded.

It's arbitrary discrimination and scapegoating.
 
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I am saying everybody should pay the same income tax percentage rate regardless of income and there should be no deductions, tax credits or what ever the hell else you want to call them. This includes those nearly the 50% percent who don't pay any kind of taxes but are so quick to jump of the tax the **** out of the rich band wagon.

Darn! I was hoping you were saying that we would be paying no income taxes. Oh well.
 
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If 47% of people pay no income tax there has to be at least 1 person here who didnt pay income taxes! Can someone please tell me and my family how you dirty dogs got away with it!!! Please tell me!!!

Are you saying that CNN lies:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Most people think they pay too much to Uncle Sam,
but for some people it simply is not true.

In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal
income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - Sep. 30, 2009
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Forty-seven percent of the people pay no income tax. Are you saying the rich should pay no income tax? :roll:

Still trying to misrepresent the facts I see.

"That’s the portion of American households that owe no income tax for 2009. The number is up from 38 percent in 2007, and it has become a popular talking point on cable television and talk radio. With Tax Day coming on Thursday, 47 percent has become shorthand for the notion that the wealthy face a much higher tax burden than they once did while growing numbers of Americans are effectively on the dole.

Neither one of those ideas is true. They rely on a cleverly selective reading of the facts. So does the 47 percent number."

"But the modifiers here — federal and income — are important. Income taxes aren’t the only kind of federal taxes that people pay. There are also payroll taxes and investment taxes, among others. And, of course, people pay state and local taxes, too.

Even if the discussion is restricted to federal taxes (for which the statistics are better), a vast majority of households end up paying federal taxes. Congressional Budget Office data suggests that, at most, about 10 percent of all households pay no net federal taxes. The number 10 is obviously a lot smaller than 47.

The reason is that poor families generally pay more in payroll taxes than they receive through benefits like the Earned Income Tax Credit. It’s not just poor families for whom the payroll tax is a big deal, either. About three-quarters of all American households pay more in payroll taxes, which go toward Medicare and Social Security, than in income taxes."

"So why are those radio and television talk show hosts spending so much time arguing that today’s wealthy are unfairly burdened? Well, it’s hard not to notice that the talk show hosts themselves tend to be among the very wealthy.


No doubt, like the rest of us, they don’t particularly enjoy paying taxes. They are happy with the tax cuts they have received lately. They would prefer if other people had to pick up the bill for Medicare, Social Security and the military — people like, say, firefighters, preschool teachers, computer support specialists, farmers, members of the clergy, mail carriers, secretaries and truck drivers.

Yes, 47% of Households Owe No Taxes. Look Closer. - NYTimes.com
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Most often, they do. They pay the same on capital gains, but they pay more income taxes than most people and they pay more to Social Security than most people do.

Maybe in dollar amount not in percentage. I think that a 35% tax would be fair.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Nice red herring. You only needed to highlight two words:

"That’s the portion of American households that owe no income tax for 2009. The number is up from 38 percent in 2007, and it has become a popular talking point on cable television and talk radio. With Tax Day coming on Thursday, 47 percent has become shorthand for the notion that the wealthy face a much higher tax burden than they once did while growing numbers of Americans are effectively on the dole.

Neither one of those ideas is true. They rely on a cleverly selective reading of the facts. So does the 47 percent number."

"But the modifiers here — federal and income — are important. Income taxes aren’t the only kind of federal taxes that people pay. There are also payroll taxes and investment taxes, among others. And, of course, people pay state and local taxes, too.

Even if the discussion is restricted to federal taxes (for which the statistics are better), a vast majority of households end up paying federal taxes. Congressional Budget Office data suggests that, at most, about 10 percent of all households pay no net federal taxes. The number 10 is obviously a lot smaller than 47.

The reason is that poor families generally pay more in payroll taxes than they receive through benefits like the Earned Income Tax Credit. It’s not just poor families for whom the payroll tax is a big deal, either. About three-quarters of all American households pay more in payroll taxes, which go toward Medicare and Social Security, than in income taxes."

"So why are those radio and television talk show hosts spending so much time arguing that today’s wealthy are unfairly burdened? Well, it’s hard not to notice that the talk show hosts themselves tend to be among the very wealthy.


No doubt, like the rest of us, they don’t particularly enjoy paying taxes. They are happy with the tax cuts they have received lately. They would prefer if other people had to pick up the bill for Medicare, Social Security and the military — people like, say, firefighters, preschool teachers, computer support specialists, farmers, members of the clergy, mail carriers, secretaries and truck drivers.
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Are you saying that CNN lies:
I never claimed that.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Most people think they pay too much to Uncle Sam,
but for some people it simply is not true.

In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal
income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - Sep. 30, 2009

I was just asking if there was at least 1 person on here that falls into that category....
 
Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

I volunteer at food shelters 2-3 times a month. Your statement about Michele Obama may be correct, but your generalization about these people is highly inaccurate. I can tell neither you nor Cephus volunteer at food shelters. Otherwise you'd know the look of sheer desperation in these people's eyes, as the meal you are feeding them in many cases is the only one they get all day. And you'd know the feeling of your heart being broken when you see how many kids have been effected by this economy.

on the contrary - I spent the third saturday of every month serving at food shelters for years (now i don't because I live in Japan). the vast majority of the "poor" in America arent' poor - they make stupid and short-sighted decisions. that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to help them, but we also shouldnt' try to romanticize them.

Is it really so hard for you to understand that "officially" the unemployment rate is 9.1%, but there are so many more who are "unofficially" unemployed and even more who are underemployed?

no, in fact I love to point out these things, to demonstrate that job-killing measures such as the one under discussion in this thread are the precise opposite of what we need. you mention the "kids" - well, young adults in my age bracket are facing exceedingly high un and under employment right now. I have friends who graduated law school and went straight to serving tables, who went through graduate school and struggle to make ends meet. I enlisted as a PFC after college, and I'm in better financial shape than they are, for crying out loud.

You can claim all these people are "lazy" or "stupid" as many conservatives have blindly said in the past. But it is more difficult out there than you could know.
 
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Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

Maybe in dollar amount not in percentage. I think that a 35% tax would be fair.

You want a tax of 35% on what and for whom?
 
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