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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I was just asking if there was at least 1 person on here that falls into that category....


    <-------------- this guy. next spring, as usual, Uncle Sam will be sending me a nice fat check that is larger than the amount of money I have sent him over the course of the year.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    As has been highlighted before, scapegoating, "lynch" mobs in the majority, are a problem in democracy.
    Some in this thread have shown to be characterizations of that.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    The biggest argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with your average voter.

    My boy Church said that. True back then - true today.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Still trying to misrepresent the facts I see.

    "That’s the portion of American households that owe no income tax for 2009. The number is up from 38 percent in 2007, and it has become a popular talking point on cable television and talk radio. With Tax Day coming on Thursday, 47 percent has become shorthand for the notion that the wealthy face a much higher tax burden than they once did while growing numbers of Americans are effectively on the dole.

    Neither one of those ideas is true. They rely on a cleverly selective reading of the facts. So does the 47 percent number."

    "But the modifiers here — federal and income — are important. Income taxes aren’t the only kind of federal taxes that people pay. There are also payroll taxes and investment taxes, among others. And, of course, people pay state and local taxes, too.

    Even if the discussion is restricted to federal taxes (for which the statistics are better), a vast majority of households end up paying federal taxes. Congressional Budget Office data suggests that, at most, about 10 percent of all households pay no net federal taxes. The number 10 is obviously a lot smaller than 47.

    The reason is that poor families generally pay more in payroll taxes than they receive through benefits like the Earned Income Tax Credit. It’s not just poor families for whom the payroll tax is a big deal, either. About three-quarters of all American households pay more in payroll taxes, which go toward Medicare and Social Security, than in income taxes."

    "So why are those radio and television talk show hosts spending so much time arguing that today’s wealthy are unfairly burdened? Well, it’s hard not to notice that the talk show hosts themselves tend to be among the very wealthy.


    No doubt, like the rest of us, they don’t particularly enjoy paying taxes. They are happy with the tax cuts they have received lately. They would prefer if other people had to pick up the bill for Medicare, Social Security and the military — people like, say, firefighters, preschool teachers, computer support specialists, farmers, members of the clergy, mail carriers, secretaries and truck drivers.

    Yes, 47% of Households Owe No Taxes. Look Closer. - NYTimes.com
    ROFL! You need to read the material you post. I almost posted this in addition to the CNN article. I take it you mssed this comment from the article: "The 47 percent number is not wrong."

    So, take your asinine accusations and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    <-------------- this guy. next spring, as usual, Uncle Sam will be sending me a nice fat check that is larger than the amount of money I have sent him over the course of the year.
    Oh yes! Lets go back to the 1700's!!!
    0% income tax!! Brilliant! Lets forget that back in the 1700's we were a smaller community, and the vast majority worked on farms! Brilliant!


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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why attack hedge fund managers though?
    They average hedge fund manager does not make millions or billions a year.
    They do earn a 6 figure salary but going after a singular group of people, as if they were all that is wrong with a country is retarded.

    It's arbitrary discrimination and scapegoating.

    How is making sure they pay the same percentage as middle income earners 'attacking them'? Good Lord ...
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Because the have-nots here paint them as parasites. It doesn't matter that their income is at a much higher risk than most. They wear suits to work, therefore we must crush them.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    How is making sure they pay the same percentage as middle income earners 'attacking them'? Good Lord ...
    What do middle income Americans pay?
    There are at least 5 tax brackets, before deductions and who qualifies as middle income?
    Seeing that the cost of living can vary from one local to the next.

    Lots of hanging chads here.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Because the have-nots here paint them as parasites. It doesn't matter that their income is at a much higher risk than most. They wear suits to work, therefore we must crush them.
    *throws out all formal/business attire.*
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Better include Buffet's secretary. Ignore the title. I bet she makes more than you, me, and everyone who will post in this thread combined.

    But hey, I have no proof of that. I just have a lingering suspicion that the assistant to the 2nd wealthiest man in America probably makes veeeeery comfortably in 6 figures, except that she doesn't create jobs or manufacture, thus doesn't qualify for tax loopholes.

    If she's 27 with a D cup, she probably makes even deeper into 6 figures.

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