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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    It's an incomplete question, at best. Is the implication that ONLY the rich should pay higher taxes? Then the answer is a resounding NO. We should ALL pay higher taxes, especially the 50% of Americans who effectively pay no income tax at all. The rich should pay a bit more than they are (39.6% should do nicely), but we ALL need to have some skin in the game and we should ALL pay a few percentage points more.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when you rob a few to pander to the many you will have the many on your side

    another reason why the progressive income tax is good politics but evil

    one day atlas will shrug and all the teat suckers are gonna wonder where the milk went
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    I'm entirely in favor of everyone, rich and otherwise paying an equal percentage of their income. I am not in favor of soaking the rich and asking them to pay 50%+ of their income so others can pay less.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when you rob a few to pander to the many you will have the many on your side

    another reason why the progressive income tax is good politics but evil

    one day atlas will shrug and all the teat suckers are gonna wonder where the milk went
    How does your opinion account for most of our debt being approved by Republican presidents?
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm entirely in favor of everyone, rich and otherwise paying an equal percentage of their income. I am not in favor of soaking the rich and asking them to pay 50%+ of their income so others can pay less.
    I don't know anyone who is asking them to pay 50% or higher. I'd be asking for closer to 38 to 40%.

    And let me ask you something, do you think you could support your family if you could only get a job that pays less than $20,000 a year, and then have to pay 20%+ of that to the government? I object to putting someone who already is in poverty that much further bellow the poverty line.

    Which is why the poor should pay a lower tax rate and the rich, who can afford it, should pay a higher rate.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I don't know anyone who is asking them to pay 50% or higher. I'd be asking for closer to 38 to 40%.
    You have to remember under Eisenhower, the rich paid 90% and lots of people want to put it right back there.

    And let me ask you something, do you think you could support your family if you could only get a job that pays less than $20,000 a year, and then have to pay 20%+ of that to the government? I object to putting someone who already is in poverty that much further bellow the poverty line.
    Anyone who is only earning $20k and has a family to support is an idiot.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You have to remember under Eisenhower, the rich paid 90% and lots of people want to put it right back there.
    Thank you for the history lesson... I am well aware. I still know no one who wants to go back to those numbers. And I can assure you any such opinion is held by few people.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Anyone who is only earning $20k and has a family to support is an idiot.
    I suggest you go volunteer at a food shelter to gain a little humility.
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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    I'm part of the other, because I believe the tax code should be simplified to be more effective, less confusing, and ultimately cheaper to maintain, before we look at adjusting people's rates. For example I'm in the Army so the Federal gov't pays my salary, however they also make me pay taxes. So basically I'm paying the gov't taxes on what the gov't pays me, why not simplify it so its just a one way transition. So if X Is what I make and Y is what they take back, just pay me X-Y and fire whoever is paid by the gov't to manage this ridiculous waste of time. This goes for all Federal jobs.

    Exception, you still pay taxes on other forms of income which don't come from the gov't.

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    Re: Are you part of the majority of Americans who feel the rich should pay higher tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Thank you for the history lesson... I am well aware. I still know no one who wants to go back to those numbers. And I can assure you any such opinion is held by few people.
    It's not as rare as you'd like to think, I found lots of people advocating a return to just that. 14 Ways a 90 Percent Top Tax Rate Fixes Our Economy and Our Country | OurFuture.org

    I suggest you go volunteer at a food shelter to gain a little humility.
    I don't need humility, I have reality. People need to be responsible for themselves. That means not doing things until they can afford to do them.
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