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How long will you "blame Bush"?

How long will you blame Bush

  • Less than one more year

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  • Until this term is over

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Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

funny how the ones crying the most about Iraq are the gutless cowards who have never been there, isn't it? They don't give a rat's ass about Iraq or our troops, they just want to use it as a talking point against Bush and conservatives.
Yeah, these ****ing gutless cowards.

About | Iraq Veterans Against the War

Your ad hominems would hold more water if veterans didn't hold the same opinions as those you criticize.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

Yeah, these ****ing gutless cowards.

About | Iraq Veterans Against the War

Your ad hominems would hold more water if veterans didn't hold the same opinions as those you criticize.

:2bigcry: sorry I wasn't more specific... I was referring to the people on this forum. but thanks for playing
 
One thing the Liberals can never do is face the truth or facts and since Obama can't do anything right they have to blame President Bush for ever because Obama is always going to be a loser, and failure.

Oh he's great at spending your tax money on lavish vacations as is his Mrs. She is accused of having spent $10 million dollars on Vacations this year, but relax it's President Bush's fault, I have no idea how it is but it must be.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

:2bigcry: sorry I wasn't more specific... I was referring to the people on this forum. but thanks for playing
I know who you were referring to and my comment still applies.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

I know who you were referring to and my comment still applies.

no it doesn't, unless you and the ones you are sticking up for can produce a DD214
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

no it doesn't, unless you and the ones you are sticking up for can produce a DD214
Nope, you try to invalidate people's arguments by attacking their lack of military service. Not only is that just stupid in general, but it's even more stupid because people in the military make the same arguments.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

Nope, you try to invalidate people's arguments by attacking their lack of military service. Not only is that just stupid in general, but it's even more stupid because people in the military make the same arguments.

you said:

Your ad hominems would hold more water if veterans didn't hold the same opinions as those you criticize.


Since I was referring to people on this forum, you can either produce some veterans on this forum that hold the same opinion or your comment is bullspit. :ssst:
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

you said:

Since I was referring to people on this forum, you can either produce some veterans on this forum that hold the same opinion or your comment is bullspit. :ssst:
It's clear that comment went right over your head. Again, you ad hominems (which you use to discredit people's arguments) would have more value if veterans didn't hold the same opinions.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

OscarB63: "talk about dishonest. how many attacks were there during the Bush years? now compare to the number during Clinton."

Sheik Yerbuti: "And you're ignoring all of these terrorist attacks under Bush ... because ... ???"

OscarB63: "strawman. I am talking about clinton's performance and how it lead to 9-11. terror attacks under bush is another topic, one which i will be glad to discuss with you at another time."

Sheik Yerbuti: "Say what??? You said compare the number of terrorist attacks while Bush was president with the number of attacks while Clinton was president. In which neighborhood in Crazytown is it a "strawman" to answer your question by showing there were more terrorist attacks while Bush was president than there were while Clinton was president?"

No response to that either, huh, Oscar?
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

no it doesn't, unless you and the ones you are sticking up for can produce a DD214
Ummm, how many DD214's have you seen from those claiming to have served in Iraq?
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

Ummm, how many DD214's have you seen from those claiming to have served in Iraq?

other than my own? none ;)



in fact, I don't recall seeing anyone on this forum claiming to have served in Iraq, especially anyone who is blaming Bush
 
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Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

in fact, I don't recall seeing anyone on this forum claiming to have served in Iraq...
Perhaps you should pay closer attention? I've seen people here forgiving Bush while claiming they served in Iraq. Point is, you question the veracity of those against Bush but not those who support him.
 
wrong. Obama has done many things right, such as the New START Treaty & killing Osama bin Laden.

Will you had to use as an example of Obama killing OBL when it was President Bush who Set it up. Good work. Who says the Start Treaty is a good thing, since we are likely the only ones who will live up to it, if we do.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

...They don't give a rat's ass about Iraq or our troops, they just want to use it as a talking point against Bush and conservatives.

yeah? prove it. all you have is baseless speculation and biased opinion.
 
Will you had to use as an example of Obama killing OBL when it was President Bush who Set it up. Good work. Who says the Start Treaty is a good thing, since we are likely the only ones who will live up to it, if we do.
Funny how many Conservatives don't hold Bush responsible for failing to defend America 8 months into his presidency yet give him credit for killing OBL 2½ years after he left office. :roll:
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

Perhaps you should pay closer attention? I've seen people here forgiving Bush while claiming they served in Iraq. Point is, you question the veracity of those against Bush but not those who support him.

wrong, I just commented that those who are complaining the loudest are also those who haven't been there.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

yeah? prove it. all you have is baseless speculation and biased opinion.

what? you mad because I am copying you? :lamo
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

Still waiting, Oscar... you put the challenge out there to compare the number of terrorist attacks under Clinton with terrorist attacks under Bush ...

OscarB63: "talk about dishonest. how many attacks were there during the Bush years? now compare to the number during Clinton."

Sheik Yerbuti: "And you're ignoring all of these terrorist attacks under Bush ... because ... ???"

OscarB63: "strawman. I am talking about clinton's performance and how it lead to 9-11. terror attacks under bush is another topic, one which i will be glad to discuss with you at another time."

Sheik Yerbuti: "Say what??? You said compare the number of terrorist attacks while Bush was president with the number of attacks while Clinton was president. In which neighborhood in Crazytown is it a "strawman" to answer your question by showing there were more terrorist attacks while Bush was president than there were while Clinton was president?"

... I answered that challenge ...


Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans

2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003
1 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.

June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks. Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.

June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.

June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.

July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.

Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.

Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.

Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.​


... and you've been running away from that ever since.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

ok. so you make very insulting claims against people without having any evidence. that is childish, pathetic, & ignorant.

why is it that the posters who never, ever have any evidence to back up their claims are always the first and loudest ones to squeal and cry for someone else to "prove it".


thanks for playing
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

why is it that the posters who never, ever have any evidence to back up their claims are always the first and loudest ones to squeal and cry for someone else to "prove it"....

it is dishonest, pathetic, & childish to make claims in this forum without even attempting to back them up. I encourage you to call such folks out whenever they do it.
 
Re: What if Doctor Seuss had written about the Clinton Regime?

let's do a poll:

seems that the loudest ones complaining about Bush and the Iraq war in this thread are Thunder, Theplaydrive and Sheik. I challenge any one of them to produce a DD214 showing that they served in US military and were deployed to Iraq.

that was my comment that started the ball rolling: the ones who complain the loudest are the ones who were never there. since it is impossible for me to prove you weren't there (the old, you can't prove a negative trap) all either of you has to do is show me your DD214 and I will apologize. IF you can't, then my statement is correct and you all need to shut up about it.
 
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