We did abolish DADT. Our depression isn't anything to be thankful for, even if it could have been worse.
We are not in a depression, that is the point.
The reality here is that much much much more could have been done to serve the people at large.
Agreed, but we would have done much less under McCain.
Yet who has Obama played to? Banks, Wall Street, big corporations. Is it really different?
I don't see Obama playing to those groups as much as the GOP would like.
We ain't winding down wars, we're still bombing the bejesus out of place. Obama did a lot to expand military operations in the ME.
I think we should have removed all the troops immediately from our ME wars. However, we have removed most of the troops from Iraq, and Obama has not said he would dishonor the agreement to have all remaining troops out by the end of the year. That is better than we would have under McCain.
McCain, however, I did feel would have launched military operations in Iran; so I'll give you that.
Agreed
We have done not much towards decreasing CO2,
Not enough certainly, I will agree, but more than in recent history, and more than we would have under the GOP.
and even if the Bush tax cuts are finally allowed to go away; it does nothing for the deficit he caused while president, the expansion of power.
Most of Obama's spending has been to fix the mess left by the last president.
We haven't gotten rid of GITMO or the Patriot Act.
I will give you that, but we wouldn't have under McCain either.
Many of the things which affect the People at large has not been addressed.
More was proposed that was blocked by the GOP requirements for a supermajority
The most we got out was health care, but even that sucks.
The president proposed a single payer system, the congress passed the GOP idea of an insurance mandate.
How much more would we be hurting with McCain? Not much. And again, this is nothing more than a "we'll get you to hell slower" argument. I don't want to go in this direction. It is wrong for the Republic. There is no point in endorsing the status quo if I do not like the status quo.
I think we would be hurting a lot more under McCain, or I would not have voted for a moderate like Obama. I do hope liberal's will challenge him in a primary, but I am not holding my breath.
Not if we still NET in the wrong direction, which we are. That buys you nothing but some perceived notion of time.
We disagree here, I think Obama, in many areas is moving in the right direction. As I have said, I would have preferred a liberal choice, but there was none that was viable offered. Until, we as a people evolve more politically and socially, I think we will continue to only have a choice between moderates and the right. But of course, that is just my opinion, and a minority opinion at that.
