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How long will you "blame Bush"?

How long will you blame Bush

  • Less than one more year

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Until this term is over

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Forever.

    Votes: 23 71.9%

  • I'm done blaming Bush.

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Total voters
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Gipper said:
Pretty simple - for people who just like to say "I blame Bush" over and over, how much longer do we have to hear it?
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Causation does not change as time goes on, unless it was incorrect to begin with.

The lion's share of the debt is the fault of George W. Bush's policies and congressional inaction during his terms. The debt has limited the action we can take to get us out of this downturn. Those are just facts.

Obama deserves criticism for being a poor leader. However, I will always blame Bush for the mess that we are in. Ten years from now, if our country goes bankrupt because Obama wasn't able to get spending in check during his eight years in office, I will blame him for that economic mess.
 
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Thunder said:
eh...

I guess that means we can also blame Bush for the highly intimate body scanners, the TSA rub-downs of old ladies & children, and the color-coded/fear-mongering "terror warning".
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Its not like the TSA guy is jackin his junk. And I would rather live and let some guy get a full body scan rather than dead cause ahkmed wasnt full body scanned.
 
Krhazy said:
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ausation does not change as time goes on, unless it was incorrect to begin with.
The lion's share of the debt is the fault of George W. Bush's policies and congressional inaction during his terms.
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The debt up to the time he left office, sure.
After that? Impossible to honestly make that argument.
The only way GWB's policies can affect the debt after that point is if they are allowed to continue - at whcih point they are no longer his policies.
 
tcmartin10 said:
Its not like the TSA guy is jackin his junk. And I would rather live and let some guy get a full body scan rather than dead cause ahkmed wasnt full body scanned.
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and yet, how many terrorists got through with their bombs, before the body scans?

out of HOW MANY flights to, from, and through the USA?
 
Thunder said:
do you find the deaths of almost 5,000 American military personnel, to be funny?
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Some people just don't support our troops I suppose.
 
Thrilla said:
for the first year Bush was in office, everything was Clinton fault....that is to be expected.
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People on the right were blaming Clinton for nearly the entire Bush presidency.
 
Clinton did help build our credit bill with companies like china a good bit. But Reagan was the one who ultimately started the debt.
 
Ikari said:
People on the right were blaming Clinton for nearly the entire Bush presidency.
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Just as those on the left blamed Bush for everything that happened from the minute after he took office.
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Just as those on the left blamed Bush for everything that happened from the minute after he took office.
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Yeah well, some on the right blamed Obama for everything that happened from the minute after he took office. Are you trying to prove that Republicans and Democrats are the same exact thing and engage in the same exact behavior? I agree.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah well, some on the right blamed Obama for everything that happened from the minute after he took office. Are you trying to prove that Republicans and Democrats are the same exact thing and engage in the same exact behavior? I agree.
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Just wanted to make sure you didn't leave something out.
 
PzKfW IVe said:
Just wanted to make sure you didn't leave something out.
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Nope. I just find these "why is everyone blaming Bush" arguments to be funny and sad because the right did the same exact thing to Clinton and Obama. It's not like it's much different. When people start complaining about how one side is engaged in a bit of dishonest hyperbole it's ironic because both sides do it all the time. Peas in a pod. All the yelling and finger pointing I suppose is there to try to make us think the two parties are different; but they all do the same things.
 
Ikari said:
People on the right were blaming Clinton for nearly the entire Bush presidency.
PzKfW IVe said:
Just as those on the left blamed Bush for everything that happened from the minute after he took office.
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I'm considered left and I didn't start blaming GWB for his massive economic screw-ups until about 2003. I was appalled how bad he bungled our response to 9-11. The whole world was offering to help us go after Al Qaeda and GWB blew them off and then sent our troops in grotesquely understaffed. Had he accepted the world's help, this war would have likely been much more like the Gulf War and our country would be in better shape fiscally and as a world power.
tcmartin10 said:
Clinton did help build our credit bill with companies like china a good bit. But Reagan was the one who ultimately started the debt.
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Good point! One I hadn't considered. Thank you.
 
Ikari said:
Nope. I just find these "why is everyone blaming Bush" arguments to be funny and sad because the right did the same exact thing to Clinton and Obama. It's not like it's much different. When people start complaining about how one side is engaged in a bit of dishonest hyperbole it's ironic because both sides do it all the time. Peas in a pod. All the yelling and finger pointing I suppose is there to try to make us think the two parties are different; but they all do the same things.
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This is why our political system isn't perfect unfortunately. Parties become a bigger priority than the citizens it seems. Everybody seems to be a team player at the worst time.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Except that he has caused it to get worse. At a time when the nation could ill afford it, he has squandered unprecedented amount of this nation's wealth on wasteful, fraudulent, destructive scams that have left this nation and its people much poorer than before.
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What would you have done to "fix" the recession sooner? What has the GOP offered in the last 3 years to "fix" the recession sooner?
 
How long are we going to blame Hitler for the holocaust? How long are we going to blame Japan for Pearl Harbor? How long are we going to blame Islam for 9/11? How long are we going to blame Judas for betraying Christ?

I don't understand the question?

Bush, and the whole republican party for that matter, totally ****ed our country up and Obama has to deal with it. Is there an expiration date on that fact?

I imagine our grandchildren will still have a ****-you in their pocket for Bush long after we are gone from this world. And why shouldn't they?
 
Ikari said:
People on the right were blaming Clinton for nearly the entire Bush presidency.
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Here's one of the best comparisons of Clinton and Bush that I have ever heard:

*** Warning - adult language ***

 
Thunder said:
eh...

I guess that means we can also blame Bush for the highly intimate body scanners, the TSA rub-downs of old ladies & children, and the color-coded/fear-mongering "terror warning".
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Everyone is an expected terrorist. Who would have expected a deacon of a church to commit mass murders of women? It happened and we call him the BTK killer. In law enforcement you have to assume everyone is a potential threat and no one is innocent of wanting to carry out an act such as blowing up an airplane. When I buy an airline ticket, I do not pay all of that money for it to crash into the ground. Luckily we have not had any major successful terrorist attacks in the US Boarders.
 
Catawba said:
So it is your opinion that the worst recession since WWII should have been "fixed" sooner??? How would you have accomplished that feat?

And what has the GOP offered in the last 2-1/2 years to "fix" the recession quicker?
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no sense in me listing what i'd do to fix the economy... you , as a diehard lefty, won't agree to much of it.
suffice to say, i'd put the job of fixin' the economy in the hands of the only people who can actually fix it... private sector industries.
government can only entice or punish these folks, but they do the tough work of fixin' stuff.

I don't care what the GOP has done to fix anything...I care about what i've done.
me and the wife have created 81 American jobs and 36 Colombian jobs since the beginning of the recession.
I don't look to politicians to fix anything.. I look to adults to do the fixin'.

children whine about other people doing stuff, adults get out and do it.
 
Thunder said:
and yet, many Liberals & Democrats are angry at Obama, including myself.

we blame him for many things, but mostly for not standing up to the GOP and for allowing his obsession with being the "better man" get in the way of demanding good legislation & compromise from the Tea-Baggers.
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Like I've said before, all the rightwingers have is hate and lies.

They can't defend bush*, so they lie about liberals
 
Captain America said:
How long are we going to blame Hitler for the holocaust? How long are we going to blame Japan for Pearl Harbor? How long are we going to blame Islam for 9/11? How long are we going to blame Judas for betraying Christ?

I don't understand the question?
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I do. The rightwingers can't defend bush* so they're going to hate on the democrats and lie about the left.

Hate and lies is all they have

Thrilla said:
no sense in me listing what i'd do to fix the economy... you , as a diehard lefty, won't agree to much of it.
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Again the right can't defend their nonsense, so they post lies about the left

suffice to say, i'd put the job of fixin' the economy in the hands of the only people who can actually fix it... private sector industries.
government can only entice or punish these folks, but they do the tough work of fixin' stuff.
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Because the private sector did such a great job by crashing the economy under bush* :roll:
 
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