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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is because you never read the evidence I posted.

    Nor did anyone else-it's non existent



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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nor did anyone else-it's non existent
    that is 100% dishonest. I indeed posted evidence and its not my fault if you fail to read it.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is 100% dishonest. I indeed posted evidence and its not my fault if you fail to read it.
    What is 100% dishonest is making the claim that you proved what you said you did



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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What is 100% dishonest is making the claim that you proved what you said you did
    I have provided evidence for my claim, its in this thread. You are welcome to go search for it.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I have provided evidence for my claim, its in this thread. You are welcome to go search for it.
    No thanks-if it were worthwhile I'd have remembered it. and I know what the facts are, when you make claims inconsistent with that, i know you are fibbing



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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

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    911 was certainly caused by clinton doing absolutely nothing in response to repeated attacks by alqueda and other terrorists...
    this is 100% untrue, as I have shown in this thread with evidence.
    Unfounded claims are not evidence. No matter how many times you repeat them.



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    the first WTT attack happened under clinton....the USS cole...the african embassy...the 200 marines killed in the Riad barracks attack...and on and on....
    yeah, like a month after he was sworn in. you really gonna blame him for that????????????
    I don't blame him for the 1993 attack. I don't think anyone was in a position to see that coming.

    I blame him for his complete negligence, incompetence, and misfeasance, once that attack had occurred, in utterly failing to do anything effective to prevent the groups responsible for that first attack from planning and carrying out a much more successful attack against the World Trade Center twelve years later.

    I note that you (correctly) point out that the first attack happened so early in Clinton's term that he couldn't reasonably have had time to anticipate and act on the threat, even if it were known; yet you refuse to grant the same leeway to Bush Jr. regarding the second attack. Both attacks took place very early in the terms of the Presidents who were in office when they were carried out, having been in planning and preparation since well before those Presidents took office. In both cases, if there is any blame to put at the President's level, that blame belongs rightfully and clearly to the previous President. I doubt if either Bush Sr. or Clinton had any way of knowing that the 1993 attack was imminent, but Clinton certainly had a warning, in the form of that attack, which ought to have led him to take effective measures to prevent a repeat. He was too busy using random military actions to distract the public from his tawdry sex scandals to give any useful attention to the actual threat that he had to know he needed to address. The failure is his.
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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No thanks-if it were worthwhile I'd have remembered it. and I know what the facts are, when you make claims inconsistent with that, i know you are fibbing
    just to show you who is being dishonest, I shall find and post my evidence.

    give me a minute.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    just to show you who is being dishonest, I shall find and post my evidence.

    give me a minute.
    I will stop my world from turning in order to be awed by such powerful evidence being mustered on your behalf



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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Nor did anyone else-it's non existent
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What is 100% dishonest is making the claim that you proved what you said you did
    Here is the post with evidence. Now we all know who is being dishonest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    not only that, but Clinton:

    Foreign policy of the Bill Clinton administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    -sent legislation to Congress to extend federal criminal jurisdiction making it easier to deport terrorists and act against terrorist fund-raising.

    -amended that legislation to increase wiretap and electronic surveillance authority for the FBI, require explosives to be equipped with traceable taggants, and appropriate more funds to the FBI, CIA, and local police...after the OKC bombing.

    -he issued Presidential Decision Directive 39 which stated that the United States "should deter, defeat and respond vigorously to all terrorist attacks on our territory and against our citizens." Furthermore, it called terrorism both a "matter of national security" and a crime
    .

    -he significantly increased anti-terror funds to the CIA & FBI.

    -he created the CIA's "Bin Laden unit", who's mission was to analyse intelligence about and plan missions against OBL.

    -he created and appointed Richard Clark to head a new Counter-terrorism Security Group, who's mission was to prevent and defend against terrorist attacks.

    -he tried to kill OBL in Afghanistan, but OBL was not there during the attacks.

    -he declared the Taliban to be a state sponsor of terrorism.

    -in 1999 he gave the CIA the authority to order the killing of OBL.

    -he helped prevent the Millenium terror attacks.

    -he drafted a plan at the end of his admistration, to defeat and destroy Al Qaeda.



    ....so much for this dishonest rumor of President Clinton not taking on terrorism.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post

    911 was certainly caused by clinton doing absolutely nothing in response to repeated attacks by alqueda and other terrorists...the first WTT attack happened under clinton....the USS cole...the african embassy...the 200 marines killed in the Riad barracks attack...and on and on....
    Yeah, who'll ever forget the 200 marines killed in their barracks while Clinton was president.

    Who knew Clinton was president for 4 terms?

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