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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    This was part of a pattern of indifference to the threat of terrorism from the time Ashcroft took office. According to the draft report of the 9/11 commission staff, FBI counterterrorism chief Dale Watson testified that he “fell off my chair” when he learned in May 2001 that Ashcroft had not listed terrorism as one of his priorities in a memo to the department staff.


    yep....The Chimp-in-Chief (President Shrub) truly dropped the ball, and 3,000 innocent people died because of it.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    [COLOR=#0000FF]Nope, that wasn't Clinton. Clinton was the one who tripled the FBI's budget for counter-terrorism. Bush was the one who came into office and denied the FBI a budget increase for counter-terrorism.
    um, if Clinton's budget was satisfactory, how did not increasing it further cause 9-11? seems it keeps coming back to that, none of you can point to any specific negative changes that Bush made that caused 9-11. at worst, bush is guilty of not fixing the problems clinton left behind




    Nope, that wasn't Clinton. The 9.11 Commission determined there was no evidence of that rumor being true and indeed, OBL had not committed any crimes against the U.S. by 1995 to even warrant extradition. Bush was the one who rejected a deal which would have led to OBL's arrest and extradition to a third-party country -- and that was after he was tied to the 9.11 attacks.

    Smooth move again, huh?
    which is totally irrelevant to the cause of 9-11.

    neither of which
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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    there was only one international terrorist attack against the US homeland, during Clinton's administration.

    you can think his hard work to fight terror, for this success.
    why do you insist on so dishonestly limiting it to international attacks inside the US? could it be because of all the international attacks that occurred against US interests overseas and the multiple domestic terror attacks inside the US? oopsie, failed again
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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Pretty simple - for people who just like to say "I blame Bush" over and over, how much longer do we have to hear it?
    If he can be considered a key reason why Obama got elected, then I will blame him forever!

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why do you insist on so dishonestly limiting it to international attacks inside the US?..
    why is that "dishonest"?

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    um, if Clinton's budget was satisfactory, how did not increasing it further cause 9-11? seems it keeps coming back to that, none of you can point to any specific negative changes that Bush made that caused 9-11. at worst, bush is guilty of not fixing the problems clinton left behind
    Because it takes being vigilant beyond just the safety measures put in place. Why would a president not do everything in their power to protect the nation they lead? In 1998 when Clinton received a PDB warning him that Al-qaeda was planning an attack inside our borders, Clinton didn't just sit back and hope the precautions he put in place were enough -- he did everything he could to prevent an attack and on top of all the other measures taken to date, still had airport security raised to prevent a potential hijacking -- and unlike the results we witnessed in horror of Bush doing nothing to prevent an attack, there was no attack in 1998 after Clinton took action in response to a possible attack by Al-Qaeda.

    Just think how 9.11 might have been different had Bush done that. We certainly know how doing absolutely nothing turned out.
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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post

    why do you insist on so dishonestly limiting it to international attacks inside the US? could it be because of all the international attacks that occurred against US interests overseas and the multiple domestic terror attacks inside the US? oopsie, failed again
    Ahh, so you are talking about attacks globally. Seems Bush failed there too.


    Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans

    2001
    Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

    2002
    June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

    2003
    1 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

    2004
    May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.

    June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks. Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

    2005
    Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    2006
    Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

    2007
    Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

    Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

    2008
    May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.

    June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.

    June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.

    July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.

    Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.

    Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.

    Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    The fact of the matter is that the system was screwed up before Bush and Obama. However, Bush, Cheney and the gang was so horrible, that even my dad couldn't stand them. Eventually, we will have to take things back...

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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    9-11 changed everything, especially our security apparatus. Bush's failure led to seriously needed changes.
    It was Bush's leadership that led to the changes in question. Leadership that Clinton completely and utterly failed to exercise twelve years before, in the wake of the 1993 terrorist attack against the World Trade Center.

    As I said, if not for Clinton's grotesque negligence and misfeasance, the 9/11 attacks would probably have been prevented.
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    Re: How long will you "blame Bush"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    ..As I said, if not for Clinton's grotesque negligence and misfeasance, the 9/11 attacks would probably have been prevented.
    I have listed many of Clinton's efforts to fight terrorism, thereby making your comment dishonest & ignorant.

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