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    Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    I don't think he does - the facts that he hadn't bothered to write it, hadn't bothered to lock on a Democrat Congresscritter to bring it up, and that Harry Reid hasn't scheduled an actual quick vote on it are rather indicative. Obama at this point is out of arrows - the Stimulus failed to do what he thought it would do, the Fed is tapped. He's not going to be able to seriously lower unemployment or increase growth between now and 2012... so what he needs instead, is a counternarrative. He needs a foil so that he can campaign on "If Only They Had Passed My Bill We Would Be In Recovery Right Now"... but (critically), they can't actually pass it, or else the jig is up. So, you pay for the whole thing with tax increases (which you know Republicans will refuse to do), in order to poison-pill it, and viola - you have a campaign stump speech to run against Congress with.

    Again, though, they can't pass the bill. If Republicans introduce and pass portions of the Presidents' Proposals (say, the Trade agreements and the Payroll tax extension), then it puts Democrats in a tough bind. Either the Senate sits on it, which severely degrades the ability to run against obstructionist Republicans, or it passes, and it moderately to severely degrades the impact of the "darn them they won't do what I asked" motif.

    A Risky Play by the President. We shall see how it turns out.

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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    I think he planned it to pass at least as much as Ryan planned his budget to pass. Take that as you will.
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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think he planned it to pass at least as much as Ryan planned his budget to pass. Take that as you will.
    I could actually see that as a fair assessment

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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    I voted no. I believe Obama is gearing up for full campaign mode for reelection. If it does not pass, he will use it to say, see the repubs tied my hands, they don't want you to have a job, they pander to the rich, etc,.
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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I voted no. I believe Obama is gearing up for full campaign mode for reelection. If it does not pass, he will use it to say, see the repubs tied my hands, they don't want you to have a job, they pander to the rich, etc,.
    One of the problems with polls like this is that it oversimplifies things. I think Obama would love it to pass, but realizes it won't and put it forward for political reasons. This actually makes it slightly better than the Ryan plan, who knew his bill would never pass and if he had any brains did not want it to, but it is still playing games with the legislative process and shows the failure at both the legislative and executive branches of the federal government. It is win win for Obama personally however: if it passes he gets a boost to GDP and employment next year, if it fails he gets something to use in the campaign.
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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    One of the problems with polls like this is that it oversimplifies things. I think Obama would love it to pass
    I don't think so. Half the mans' proposal seems to consist of extending the payroll tax cuts already in effect. He and his team know that if this passed en-total that its' effect on the economy would be marginal at best. Then he would be running in 2012 with...... nothing.

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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    One of the problems with polls like this is that it oversimplifies things. I think Obama would love it to pass, but realizes it won't and put it forward for political reasons. This actually makes it slightly better than the Ryan plan, who knew his bill would never pass and if he had any brains did not want it to, but it is still playing games with the legislative process and shows the failure at both the legislative and executive branches of the federal government. It is win win for Obama personally however: if it passes he gets a boost to GDP and employment next year, if it fails he gets something to use in the campaign.
    This is basically what I believe. If it passes it will surely help the economy, and he can run on that, and if it doesn't he can blame the republicans. Win win for Obama.
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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Of course he does and while some haters think nothing says "I Don't Care" more than an enormous paper clip? I have faith he does wish for this to pass
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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This is basically what I believe. If it passes it will surely help the economy, and he can run on that, and if it doesn't he can blame the republicans. Win win for Obama.
    yeah. if a quarter of a trillion from Bush plus Two point Eight Trillion from the Fed plus another Trillion from the first Stimulus didn't do squat, surely all that is missing is another $450 Billion. America is only a tax-credit-for-hiring-a-veteran away from 4% annual growth, no doubt.
    Last edited by cpwill; 09-17-11 at 05:03 AM.

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    Re: Does President Obama want his "new" jobs bill to pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Of course he does and while some haters think nothing says "I Don't Care" more than an enormous paper clip? I have faith he does wish for this to pass
    touching.


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    but indeed touching .

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