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Dog owner responsibility

Should a dog owner be punished?


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Your statement on "dangerous dog" is wrong for NC. If it weren't, then we would owe a certain someone a couple thousand dollars.

I cited the law and linked to it

§ 67-4.1. Definitions and procedures.
(a) As used in this Article, unless the context clearly requires otherwise and except as modified in subsection (b) of this section, the term:

(1) "Dangerous dog" means

a. A dog that:

1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or

Please note that it says nothing about the dog being leashed. If your dog is outside your property and bites someone, it is, by definition, a dangerous dog.
 
a. A dog that:

1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or
2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.
1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or
2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.

North Carolina

Sorry mate, you keep referring to dangerous dog and my dog is not one under law.
 
a. A dog that:

1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or
2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.
1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or
2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.

North Carolina

Sorry mate, you keep referring to dangerous dog and my dog is not one under law.

Where did you get the provocation from?
 
If someone has a breed of dog that is known to be very aggressive towards people or pets then I think it is reasonable to hold them accountable if it hurts someone.
 
Because my dog was bitten in my home, he is not a "dangerous dog". I know this because this was put into the insurance claim.

Also, you have avoided two questions here, are you a dog trainer? Do you think all dogs should be leashed at all times outdoors (Other than a in-fenced area)?

Unless they are in a fenced in area on your personal property, dogs should always be on a leash outdoors (in my opinion). Though, where I live, it is the law. And any dog over 25kg must have a muzzle.
 
The law mentions "without provocation" which you bolded. Why did you bold it if you didn't mean to imply that there was a provocation?

Yeah, the person provoked my dog by reaching for his food bowl. I would say that is provocation seeing as how the dog growled at her twice.
 
Yeah, the person provoked my dog by reaching for his food bowl. I would say that is provocation seeing as how the dog growled at her twice.

Again, I'm not referrring to the feeding issue. I'm talking about what happens when you take your dog outside.
 
Yeah, the person provoked my dog by reaching for his food bowl. I would say that is provocation seeing as how the dog growled at her twice.


Jryan, why are you arguing? You have a biting dog. I've owned four German Shepherds. None of them, repeat, none of them, have ever bitten a person. (One bit an off-leash dog.) I don't care what the "provocation," and, believe me, reaching for a dog's food bowl should not result in growls or biting, is the result of poor training by you.

When your aunt was bitten, you should have heartily apologized and offered whatever financial assistance was necessary. It was your fault. Not your dog's. Yours. If you have a dog who is aggressive, it is your responsibility to protect your family and invited guests from that dog. It's not their responsibility to be trained as to what's acceptable in your dog's eyes and what's not. The next time your dog bites, it may bite a toddler who rushes up to him in the park. Protect your dog from itself. Muzzle it! Legal culpability aside.

You are an irresponsible dog owner.
 
Again, I'm not referrring to the feeding issue. I'm talking about what happens when you take your dog outside.

The codes set in place are for "dangerous dogs" so if a previously dangerous dog takes a bite out of another dog randomly while on a walk, he then becomes a dangerous dog (See muzzles).

You are an irresponsible dog owner.

lol

BTW, I'm now arguing laws not right or wrong. Also, I have tried to train him but we didn't have the dog as a puppy we got him as a on year old pup and suspect the previous owner was abusive. (They even told us they left him in his crate 24 hours a day).
 
The codes set in place are for "dangerous dogs" so if a previously dangerous dog takes a bite out of another dog randomly while on a walk, he then becomes a dangerous dog (See muzzles).

Thats not what the law says.
 
Thats not what the law says.

§ 67-4.1. Definitions and procedures

(a) As used in this Article, unless the context clearly requires otherwise and except as modified in subsection (b) of this section, the term:

(1) "Dangerous dog" means

a. A dog that:

1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or

2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.

b. Any dog owned or harbored primarily or in part for the purpose of dog fighting, or any dog trained for dog fighting.

(2) "Potentially dangerous dog" means a dog that the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control determines to have:

a. Inflicted a bite on a person that resulted in broken bones or disfiguring lacerations or required cosmetic surgery or hospitalization; or


(This is my dog)

b. Killed or inflicted severe injury upon a domestic animal when not on the owner's real property; or

c. Approached a person when not on the owner's property in a vicious or terrorizing manner in an apparent attitude of attack.

(3) "Owner" means any person or legal entity that has a possessory property right in a dog.

(4) "Owner's real property" means any real property owned or leased by the owner of the dog, but does not include any public right-of-way or a common area of a condominium, apartment complex, or townhouse development.

(5) "Severe injury" means any physical injury that results in broken bones or disfiguring lacerations or required cosmetic surgery or hospitalization.

(b) The provisions of this Article do not apply to:

(1) A dog being used by a law enforcement officer to carry out the law enforcement officer's official duties;

(2) A dog being used in a lawful hunt;

(3) A dog where the injury or damage inflicted by the dog was sustained by a domestic animal while the dog was working as a hunting dog, herding dog, or predator control dog on the property of, or under the control of, its owner or keeper, and the damage or injury was to a species or type of domestic animal appropriate to the work of the dog; or

(4) A dog where the injury inflicted by the dog was sustained by a person who, at the time of the injury, was committing a willful trespass or other tort, was tormenting, abusing, or assaulting the dog, had tormented, abused, or assaulted the dog, or was committing or attempting to commit a crime.

(c) The county or municipal authority responsible for animal control shall designate a person or a Board to be responsible for determining when a dog is a "potentially dangerous dog" and shall designate a separate Board to hear any appeal. The person or Board making the determination that a dog is a "potentially dangerous dog" must notify the owner in writing, giving the reasons for the determination, before the dog may be considered potentially dangerous under this Article. The owner may appeal the determination by filing written objections with the appellate Board within three days. The appellate Board shall schedule a hearing within 10 days of the filing of the objections.

Any appeal from the final decision of such appellate Board shall be taken to the superior court by filing notice of appeal and a petition for review within 10 days of the final decision of the appellate Board. Appeals from rulings of the appellate Board shall be heard in the superior court division. The appeal shall be heard de novo before a superior court judge sitting in the county in which the appellate Board whose ruling is being appealed is located.

North Carolina Consolidated Dog Statutes

You seem to not want to read the definition of "dangerous dog".
 
North Carolina Consolidated Dog Statutes

You seem to not want to read the definition of "dangerous dog".

I will quote
a) As used in this Article, unless the context clearly requires otherwise and except as modified in subsection (b) of this section, the term:

(1) "Dangerous dog" means

a. A dog that:

1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or

2. Is determined by the person or Board designated by the county or municipal authority responsible for animal control to be potentially dangerous because the dog has engaged in one or more of the behaviors listed in subdivision (2) of this subsection.

#1 does not require a previous bite. As soon as a dog bites someone severely enough, it becomes a "dangerous dog" and its owner will be held liable for the damage.

(2) Permit a dangerous dog to go beyond the owner's real property unless the dog is leashed and muzzled or is otherwise securely restrained and muzzled.

If a dog that has never bit someone is walked without a leash and muzzle beyond the owners property, and it bites someone, it is a dangerous dog and the owner has violated the provision of the law I quote above

If you take your dog out without a muzzle, and it bites someone (because they tried to break up a dog fight) you will be in violation of that law. You can be sued
 
1. Without provocation has killed or inflicted severe injury on a person; or

a. Inflicted a bite on a person that resulted in broken bones or disfiguring lacerations or required cosmetic surgery or hospitalization; or

Do you see the difference yet? He was provoked when she walked over and reached for his food bowl, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, THEN the dog bit her. I would call that provoking a dog.
 
Do you see the difference yet? He was provoked when she walked over and reached for his food bowl, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, he growled, she backed up, then went for it again, THEN the dog bit her. I would call that provoking a dog.

That's a coincidence. I was in a restaurant the other day, and a cockroach was peeking out from within the ham sandwich of the guy next to me. In a very friendly, open manner, I reached over to get it, and he gave me a dirty look and pulled it away and started to take a bite. So, I calmly tried to explain about the huge nasty roach as I reached back toward his sandwich -- but he stabbed me through my right eye with his fork.

It was really funny. And, obviously, my fault. I shouldn't have provoked him.
 
That's a coincidence. I was in a restaurant the other day, and a cockroach was peeking out from within the ham sandwich of the guy next to me. In a very friendly, open manner, I reached over to get it, and he gave me a dirty look and pulled it away and started to take a bite. So, I calmly tried to explain about the huge nasty roach as I reached back toward his sandwich -- but he stabbed me through my right eye with his fork.

It was really funny. And, obviously, my fault. I shouldn't have provoked him.

Greenville your going to be a star here...lololol
 
That's a coincidence. I was in a restaurant the other day, and a cockroach was peeking out from within the ham sandwich of the guy next to me. In a very friendly, open manner, I reached over to get it, and he gave me a dirty look and pulled it away and started to take a bite. So, I calmly tried to explain about the huge nasty roach as I reached back toward his sandwich -- but he stabbed me through my right eye with his fork.

It was really funny. And, obviously, my fault. I shouldn't have provoked him.

Humans are different than dogs. Also, shouldn't you be in the hospital? He stabbed you in the eye with a fork. He also only used body language to signal he was pissed. He didn't say, "GET THE **** OFF MY SANDWICH!", which I think was what my dog was saying when he was growling. BTW, why is it all conservatives who are against my thinking on this scenario?
 
Do you have evidence of this?!?!?!

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Unless the owner is involved in the attack they shouldn't be accountable for it.
 
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