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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Would the parents be partially responsible if they left the door open on their property and the child wandered away? What if a wild animal got inside?
    Nice straw man, but that's not what happened. The adult was badly mauled trying to defend the child.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Would the parents be partially responsible if they left the door open on their property and the child wandered away? What if a wild animal got inside?
    Nice straw man, but that's not what happened. The adult was badly mauled trying to defend the child.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Nice straw man, but that's not what happened. The adult was badly mauled trying to defend the child.
    I think it's perfectly relevant to the responsibility discussion. If the parent does not protect the property and that lack of protection allows access for any harm to the child, does the parent then have any level of responsibility?
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Nice straw man, but that's not what happened. The adult was badly mauled trying to defend the child.
    you are the one who brought up carelessness. who is to blame is irrelevent. it is careless to leave your dwelling unsecured, for a variety of reasons.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think it's perfectly relevant to the responsibility discussion. If the parent does not protect the property and that lack of protection allows access for any harm to the child, does the parent then have any level of responsibility?
    exactly. in this case it happened to be the neighbor's dog, it could just as easily been a freakin dingo.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think it's perfectly relevant to the responsibility discussion. If the parent does not protect the property and that lack of protection allows access for any harm to the child, does the parent then have any level of responsibility?
    Fine, i will answer your straw man. If there was not an adult present, and the child was unsupervised, the parent would have some responsibility if the child were harmed. However, that is not what happened.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Fine, i will answer your straw man. If there was not an adult present, and the child was unsupervised, the parent would have some responsibility if the child were harmed. However, that is not what happened.
    You can keep calling it a strawman if you want, but you're the one who brought it up. A differing opinion on your point doesn't = strawman.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you are the one who brought up carelessness. who is to blame is irrelevent. it is careless to leave your dwelling unsecured, for a variety of reasons.
    So you are, in fact, saying that it was the parent's fault for having their door open. And no-who to blame is VERY relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You can keep calling it a strawman if you want, but you're the one who brought it up. A differing opinion on your point doesn't = strawman.
    What, carelessness? The dog's owner WAS careless and a child died because of it. You are arguing about something that did not take place. therefore it IS a straw man.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You can keep calling it a strawman if you want, but you're the one who brought it up. A differing opinion on your point doesn't = strawman.
    exactly. if this had been a wild animal instead of a neighboring pet, would people be screaming for mother nature to be thrown in jail?
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    So you are, in fact, saying that it was the parent's fault for having their door open. And no-who to blame is VERY relevant.
    no, it was the dog's fault. however, the parent was careless for having their door open so any pet, wild animal, criminal off the street, etc could just walk in. there is a difference



    What, carelessness? The dog's owner WAS careless and a child died because of it. You are arguing about something that did not take place. therefore it IS a straw man.
    maybe you need to go look up the definition of "strawman". you seem to be misusing the term.

    also, there is no way of knowing from the info in the article whether or not the dog's owner was careless. you just assume it to be so. you have no idea what measures the owner had taken to secure the dog.
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