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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the dog had never done it before, then it wasn't a resource guarder. But from the description given, that dog was one.

    Dogs, like any other mammal, can be unpredictable. No one can eliminate all risk. But known risks should be addressed.
    Right (This was actually the story of my dog biting someone) now when we have guest over, he has to go in his crate.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That's really sad because it sounds like she was a good owner.
    She was a great K9 officer...my point was shewolf that even an extremely trained canine with a well trained Master cant predict an animals behavior...She lost the dog for allowing him out of his cage unleashed which allowed him to bite two individuals...The agency was not wrong taking the dog...those two lawsuits will cost the taxpayers in the hundreds of thousands of dollars minimum.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right (This was actually the story of my dog biting someone) now when we have guest over, he has to go in his crate.
    Where he should be if he has any tendency whatsover to biting...and he obviously does

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Back on subject, I don't think the owner should be responsible if it is the first or the second time (although the dog, sadly, should if it is the second time or the first time was severe, ie murder).

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Back on subject, I don't think the owner should be responsible if it is the first or the second time (although the dog, sadly, should if it is the second time or the first time was severe, ie murder).
    Ive said this before in the thread..each case needs to be investigated and reacted to on the information from the investigation...I dont think we can put a 1 or 2 time pardon on owner irresponsiblity anymore...if the owner isnt fulfilling his responsiblity as a dog owner and his dog serverely hurts someone...he has to be held accountable in my mind...theres just too much of it anymore...we have enough to be wary of walking around in public we dont need to be afraid we will be attacked by someones pet.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ive said this before in the thread..each case needs to be investigated and reacted to on the information from the investigation...I dont think we can put a 1 or 2 time pardon on owner irresponsiblity anymore...if the owner isnt fulfilling his responsiblity as a dog owner and his dog serverely hurts someone...he has to be held accountable in my mind...theres just too much of it anymore...we have enough to be wary of walking around in public we dont need to be afraid we will be attacked by someones pet.
    With jail time though? I mean I can see if it is dog abuse (ie they are making dogs fight) but for just, oh **** I didn't know, or you did know and the dog got loose.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    With jail time though? I mean I can see if it is dog abuse (ie they are making dogs fight) but for just, oh **** I didn't know, or you did know and the dog got loose.
    I have recently had 3 different experiences with aggressive dogs, 1 a pit bull that was not on a leash, a large German Shepard and large black Lab both on leashes. Having a dog under control does not just mean having it on a leash, when the dog can pull the owner across the road to get to you that animal is not controlled.

    I looked up the local laws concerning dogs copied and printed out enough copies to put into every mail box in the neigborhood along with how I was going to respond to aggressive dogs. Air Horn, pepper spray and if required a baseball bat I will not nor will I allow my dog to be chewed up by an out of control dog, if I have to use the bat to discourage an attack I will , if I have the need to go to the bat the dog will not need a vet

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I have recently had 3 different experiences with aggressive dogs, 1 a pit bull that was not on a leash, a large German Shepard and large black Lab both on leashes. Having a dog under control does not just mean having it on a leash, when the dog can pull the owner across the road to get to you that animal is not controlled.

    I looked up the local laws concerning dogs copied and printed out enough copies to put into every mail box in the neigborhood along with how I was going to respond to aggressive dogs. Air Horn, pepper spray and if required a baseball bat I will not nor will I allow my dog to be chewed up by an out of control dog, if I have to use the bat to discourage an attack I will , if I have the need to go to the bat the dog will not need a vet
    Heh, I have a Labrador and he is aggressive towards small dogs. People in the park are so face palm, they get all out of control when my dog attacks theirs, (theirs is off leash mine is on). I had one woman say she was gonna file a lawsuit, I was just like good luck here is my cell. People with off leash dogs need to seriously consider growing a brain. I can only see an off leash dog if your dog is well trained and perfect, even then, when another dog comes along, you should put the dog on his/her leash because I'm not jumping into the middle of a dog fight and getting bit to save some stupid Chihuahua because the dog's owner wasn't smart enough to figure out leash laws.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Heh, I have a Labrador and he is aggressive towards small dogs. People in the park are so face palm, they get all out of control when my dog attacks theirs, (theirs is off leash mine is on). I had one woman say she was gonna file a lawsuit, I was just like good luck here is my cell. People with off leash dogs need to seriously consider growing a brain. I can only see an off leash dog if your dog is well trained and perfect, even then, when another dog comes along, you should put the dog on his/her leash because I'm not jumping into the middle of a dog fight and getting bit to save some stupid Chihuahua because the dog's owner wasn't smart enough to figure out leash laws.
    You are being irresponsible by bringing a dog-aggresive dog anywhere near a dog park or any place where you know that dogs are likely to be running free.

    For one thing, everytime your dog attacks a dog that comes close to it, you are reinforcing your dogs aggressiveness. This not only makes it more likely that your dog will continue to be aggressive towards dogs, but it also makes it more likely that, in the future, your dog will respond with aggression in other, non-dog related, situations.

    You're training your dog to be aggressive. Everytime your dog is aggresive towards another, you are reinforcing the idea that "aggression works" in your dogs mind. It's just a matter of time before your dog applies that lesson in other situations, like towards another person.

    And you're wrong about off-leash dogs. The law does not require dogs to be on-leash. Only that dogs be kept "under the control of it's owner". That means if the dog comes when it's called, and isn't aggressive, then dog is "under control"

    It's YOUR, aggressive, dog that is not under control....unless you're commanding your dog to attack other dogs (I'm assuming that attacking other dogs is NOT something you want your dog to do). If that happened and I was there, I would advise those people to sue you because they would win and your dog would eventually be taken from you and destroyed because your dog is a menace
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You are being irresponsible by bringing a dog-aggresive dog anywhere near a dog park or any place where you know that dogs are likely to be running free.

    For one thing, everytime your dog attacks a dog that comes close to it, you are reinforcing your dogs aggressiveness. This not only makes it more likely that your dog will continue to be aggressive towards dogs, but it also makes it more likely that, in the future, your dog will respond with aggression in other, non-dog related, situations.

    You're training your dog to be aggressive. Everytime your dog is aggresive towards another, you are reinforcing the idea that "aggression works" in your dogs mind. It's just a matter of time before your dog applies that lesson in other situations, like towards another person.

    And you're wrong about off-leash dogs. The law does not require dogs to be on-leash. Only that dogs be kept "under the control of it's owner". That means if the dog comes when it's called, and isn't aggressive, then dog is "under control"

    It's YOUR, aggressive, dog that is not under control....unless you're commanding your dog to attack other dogs (I'm assuming that attacking other dogs is NOT something you want your dog to do). If that happened and I was there, I would advise those people to sue you because they would win and your dog would eventually be taken from you and destroyed because your dog is a menace
    Overview of State Leash Laws

    Website informing you on leash laws, which I'm pretty sure you are disobeying.

    First lets get our facts straight, in North Carolina it is illegal for you to have your dog off leash AT ANY TIME. Second, if a person is dumb enough to have their dog off leash and his or her dog runs up to mine and mine attacks. I'm not putting my hand in that fight to save your dog. Thirdly, if their dog gets killed off leash they were breaking the law, they are liable. Lastly, I think they should be jailed, leaving a dog off leash while walking him or her is negligence, even if the dog is "well-behaved".

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