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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I think it depends on the circumstance. If the owner was irresponsible or if individual being attacked, provoked the attack. If an person owns a dog and raises it to be viscous, especially in dog fights, then they should definitely go to jail if their dog attacks an innocent person.

    If it's somebody breaking into your house, and your dog rips a them up... the owner shouldn't be punished at all, even though they have been fined and charged under those circumstances before.

    I have only ever known one child who was attacked by a dog, and she constantly teased the dog and was mean to it. Dogs are special creatures with their own social structures, hierarchies, and behaviours living among us. The dog's response to being teased and being treated cruel, as it probably perceived it, was natural IMO, and putting the dog to sleep for viciousness would have been extreme. The little girl's mom also made it clear as to why the dog attacked her, and she learned to respect animals as a result.

    I think it's hard to say what should happen, because every circumstance is different. I definitely wouldn't say that the owner should go to jail 100% of the time though... just seems extreme given the things I have seen from my personal POV
    Each case has to be investigated based on the circumstances...but there are too many of these dog incidents anymore..and unfortunately the lionshare of them are pitbulls running loose or just losing it.
    I know all the stories...its not the breed its the way they are raised etc etc etc...thats not altogether true...pitbulls are instinctively aggressive and territorial...yes the way they are raised has bearing...but again unfortunately many owners dont own pitbulls to put bows on their heads.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Dogs like children are not born knowing right from wrong they need to be taught, most dogs are very capable of learning and actually like to please their owner, One of the very first things I do with a dog is teach it not to be food aggressive, growling is being aggressive and is not a positive trait for a dog to have. The aunt should not have reached for the bowl the dog should not have displayed an aggressive response. If the dog owner was in the room at the time the dog should have been disciplined before it bit. The aunt should have had better sense then to provoke the dog but the next human might have been a child who did not know better
    My sister is always talking about how she is training her dog... She is always trying to train them for this and that. I am so happy I have a cat. My cat can be kind of annoying sometimes, but that's mostly because he talks a lot and he is constantly under my feet... but that's it. He came potty trained and he can bathe himself. I haven't trained him at all, and he is nearly perfect. lol

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My sister is always talking about how she is training her dog... She is always trying to train them for this and that. I am so happy I have a cat. My cat can be kind of annoying sometimes, but that's mostly because he talks a lot and he is constantly under my feet... but that's it. He came potty trained and he can bathe himself. I haven't trained him at all, and he is nearly perfect. lol
    Training cant cure all behavior...right behind me is a K9 officer and her husband..we are very good friend...her dog had a face from hell...he was the most unnerving damn thing..he would be in his pen and whenever I was out in my yard...he stood perfectly still didnt utter a sound and just stared muscles tense...he was a huge black with tan markings shepherd...extremely well trained and listened to her explicitly ..for the 3 yrs he was there...she would let him out to run a bit and put him back in on her days off ....he bit the neighbor next...she let him out of his pen to go to work and he shot past and jumped the neighbor for no reason...didnt tear him up to bad because she was right on him...the neighbor sued...3 months later he did the same thing this time to his wife...no rhyme no reason and the attack was much worse...they took the dog from her and deactivated him...unfortunately they most likely will put him down....training doesnt cure all...it of course is necessary

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So, what do you all think about you having a guest (Say an aunt) over to your house. While this relative is at your house your dog is eating his food. Lets say that the aunt reaches for the dogs food bowl and the dog growls at the person. The person backs off and then goes back for the food bowl. The dog again growls. The third time the food bowl aggressor reaches for the bowl the dog jumps up and bites the person in the face. Is the home owner at fault (Say this happened over a few seconds and the dog owners were out of the room).
    The owners' fault. If they have a dog that's a resource guarder, then they shouldn't be feeding the dog without supervision when other people are around.

    Any owner with a dog that shows signs of unwanted aggression is responsible for managing the dog to ensure that no one is harmed.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The owners' fault. If they have a dog that's a resource guarder, then they shouldn't be feeding the dog without supervision when other people are around.

    Any owner with a dog that shows signs of unwanted aggression is responsible for managing the dog to ensure that no one is harmed.
    My Catahoula pup bit the **** out of me for trying to take something she grabbed away from her.

    She only did it once.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Training cant cure all behavior...right behind me is a K9 officer and her husband..we are very good friend...her dog had a face from hell...he was the most unnerving damn thing..he would be in his pen and whenever I was out in my yard...he stood perfectly still didnt utter a sound and just stared muscles tense...he was a huge black with tan markings shepherd...extremely well trained and listened to her explicitly ..for the 3 yrs he was there...she would let him out to run a bit and put him back in on her days off ....he bit the neighbor next...she let him out of his pen to go to work and he shot past and jumped the neighbor for no reason...didnt tear him up to bad because she was right on him...the neighbor sued...3 months later he did the same thing this time to his wife...no rhyme no reason and the attack was much worse...they took the dog from her and deactivated him...unfortunately they most likely will put him down....training doesnt cure all...it of course is necessary
    That's really sad because it sounds like she was a good owner.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The owners' fault. If they have a dog that's a resource guarder, then they shouldn't be feeding the dog without supervision when other people are around.

    Any owner with a dog that shows signs of unwanted aggression is responsible for managing the dog to ensure that no one is harmed.
    What if the owner didn't know ahead of time that their dog was a resource guarder. Say said owner can put his hand in his dog's food bowl or take his food from him etc etc.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    My Catahoula pup bit the **** out of me for trying to take something she grabbed away from her.

    She only did it once.
    There's a saying in dog trainer circles...Once is an accident. Twice is a habit. Three times is a lifestyle
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    What if the owner didn't know ahead of time that their dog was a resource guarder. Say said owner can put his hand in his dog's food bowl or take his food from him etc etc.
    If the dog had never done it before, then it wasn't a resource guarder. But from the description given, that dog was one.

    Dogs, like any other mammal, can be unpredictable. No one can eliminate all risk. But known risks should be addressed.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Im obviously late to this thread but only reading the OP theres no reason yet for me to want the owner to go to jail.

    How did the dog get out?
    Did the owner know it was loose?
    Did the owner know it to be violent?
    Was it being trained to be violent?

    etc etc etc

    theres lots of questions that matter to assessing responsibility to the owner. Maybe more facts are in this thread but like I said I only read the OP so far.
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