View Poll Results: Should a dog owner be punished?

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    best part is I never have to worry about boogers or earwax build up
    Now that's what I call a useful pet.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Over here we've had a recent incident where a dog escaped its yard, broke into the neighbours house and killed a 4 year old. Under current laws all the dog owner receives is a fine, and there's a debate over whether the owner should receive jail time or not.
    Why on earth is there a debate about this? Australia is a common law country, and as such there should not be any ex post facto penalties imposed. If the law only allows for a fine, there is no valid legal basis for imposing jail time.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Here is just another recent example...Out of many that happen every single day in this country...watch the video...it doesnt show the attack
    Police are increasingly having to SHOOT dogs attacking citizens...my son in law told me a k9 officer who responded to a dog attack on kids in atlantic city with him...had to set his k9 dog on a pitbull to distract it off the kid....they couldnt shoot the dog without risking the kids life....the k9 dog made out ok...because they shot and killed the pit......this has gotten out of control....I love dogs but I love kid more.



    - Two dogs attacked a 62-year-old woman who was exercising on a track at a senior center on Long Island Thursday morning, police said.

    The woman, Shashi Sharma, suffered serious wounds but was able to call police. The incident happened at about 11 a.m. on September 29, 2011.

    Nassau County cops responded to the area, near Brookside Junior High School in North Merrick, and found the dogs attacking the woman at the edge of a parking lot. The dogs, believed to be pit bulls, shifted their focus to the officers, who fired at them.

    The dogs ran off, but one collapsed and died. The other dog is in hiding, and police are conducting an extensive search to find it.



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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Here is just another recent example...Out of many that happen every single day in this country...watch the video...it doesnt show the attack
    Police are increasingly having to SHOOT dogs attacking citizens...my son in law told me a k9 officer who responded to a dog attack on kids in atlantic city with him...had to set his k9 dog on a pitbull to distract it off the kid....they couldnt shoot the dog without risking the kids life....the k9 dog made out ok...because they shot and killed the pit......this has gotten out of control....I love dogs but I love kid more.



    - Two dogs attacked a 62-year-old woman who was exercising on a track at a senior center on Long Island Thursday morning, police said.

    The woman, Shashi Sharma, suffered serious wounds but was able to call police. The incident happened at about 11 a.m. on September 29, 2011.

    Nassau County cops responded to the area, near Brookside Junior High School in North Merrick, and found the dogs attacking the woman at the edge of a parking lot. The dogs, believed to be pit bulls, shifted their focus to the officers, who fired at them.

    The dogs ran off, but one collapsed and died. The other dog is in hiding, and police are conducting an extensive search to find it.



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    The owners of these dogs should be held accountable, arrested, tried and sent to jail. It's evident from the number of serious dog attacks that owners are not taking the steps necessary to protect others from their animals.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The owners of these dogs should be held accountable, arrested, tried and sent to jail. It's evident from the number of serious dog attacks that owners are not taking the steps necessary to protect others from their animals.
    And its increased dramatically in the last 15 yrs...people have a right to feel save walking in public...they have a right to feel safe in a park...jogging...walking their dog or riding a bike..
    Each case needs to be investigated and the punishment determined by the results of the investigations....but this needs to be slowed down...it can never be stopped totally..

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    So, what do you all think about you having a guest (Say an aunt) over to your house. While this relative is at your house your dog is eating his food. Lets say that the aunt reaches for the dogs food bowl and the dog growls at the person. The person backs off and then goes back for the food bowl. The dog again growls. The third time the food bowl aggressor reaches for the bowl the dog jumps up and bites the person in the face. Is the home owner at fault (Say this happened over a few seconds and the dog owners were out of the room).

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So, what do you all think about you having a guest (Say an aunt) over to your house. While this relative is at your house your dog is eating his food. Lets say that the aunt reaches for the dogs food bowl and the dog growls at the person. The person backs off and then goes back for the food bowl. The dog again growls. The third time the food bowl aggressor reaches for the bowl the dog jumps up and bites the person in the face. Is the home owner at fault (Say this happened over a few seconds and the dog owners were out of the room).
    Thats not the same thing were discussing Jryan...were discussing dogs running loose untended and attacking people....there are always going to be dog bites

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So, what do you all think about you having a guest (Say an aunt) over to your house. While this relative is at your house your dog is eating his food. Lets say that the aunt reaches for the dogs food bowl and the dog growls at the person. The person backs off and then goes back for the food bowl. The dog again growls. The third time the food bowl aggressor reaches for the bowl the dog jumps up and bites the person in the face. Is the home owner at fault (Say this happened over a few seconds and the dog owners were out of the room).
    Dogs like children are not born knowing right from wrong they need to be taught, most dogs are very capable of learning and actually like to please their owner, One of the very first things I do with a dog is teach it not to be food aggressive, growling is being aggressive and is not a positive trait for a dog to have. The aunt should not have reached for the bowl the dog should not have displayed an aggressive response. If the dog owner was in the room at the time the dog should have been disciplined before it bit. The aunt should have had better sense then to provoke the dog but the next human might have been a child who did not know better

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Over here we've had a recent incident where a dog escaped its yard, broke into the neighbours house and killed a 4 year old. Under current laws all the dog owner receives is a fine, and there's a debate over whether the owner should receive jail time or not. So what do you think, should there be a charge of negligent homicide or something like that for owners who allow their dogs to escape and cause death?
    I think it depends on the circumstance. If the owner was irresponsible or if individual being attacked, provoked the attack. If an person owns a dog and raises it to be viscous, especially in dog fights, then they should definitely go to jail if their dog attacks an innocent person.

    If it's somebody breaking into your house, and your dog rips a them up... the owner shouldn't be punished at all, even though they have been fined and charged under those circumstances before.

    I have only ever known one child who was attacked by a dog, and she constantly teased the dog and was mean to it. Dogs are special creatures with their own social structures, hierarchies, and behaviours living among us. The dog's response to being teased and being treated cruel, as it probably perceived it, was natural IMO, and putting the dog to sleep for viciousness would have been extreme. The little girl's mom also made it clear as to why the dog attacked her, and she learned to respect animals as a result.

    I think it's hard to say what should happen, because every circumstance is different. I definitely wouldn't say that the owner should go to jail 100% of the time though... just seems extreme given the things I have seen from my personal POV

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