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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Over here we've had a recent incident where a dog escaped its yard, broke into the neighbours house and killed a 4 year old. Under current laws all the dog owner receives is a fine, and there's a debate over whether the owner should receive jail time or not. So what do you think, should there be a charge of negligent homicide or something like that for owners who allow their dogs to escape and cause death?
    Case-by-case basis is the onlly thing that makes sense. I'm not sure where you got your information that the all a dog owner will receive is a fine, since the article itself says:

    Penalties for an owner or person in control of a dog that attacks or bites any person depend on the seriousness of the attack and whether the dog had been declared to be dangerous before the attack began, according to Victoria Legal Aid.
    Here in the US, a dog does not have to have been declared dangerous. Gross negligence or harboring a dog with a biting history is enough to get criminal charges. I could certainly picture a person in the US being charged with negligent homicide depending upon the circumstances of the death. I'm not sure there's really enough information in the article to assume that the dog's owner will simply be fined. And, again, here in the states, there would be a civil suit that would probably award HUGE damages.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Bit by one as a kid, chased by them on occasion while on my bike, almost had one cause an accident on the bike leg of a half-iron triathlon this spring, dogs in our building bark at all hours, and a friend of mine was attacked by one earlier this year on a LSD run in the mountains...
    I have been bit and chased by dogs while riding bicycles and I do find their bark to be annoying but I still like dogs.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I have been bit and chased by dogs while riding bicycles and I do find their bark to be annoying but I still like dogs.
    once, while jogging, I was bitten by a border collie. ran out from the owners yard and nipped me on the back of the heel. I stopped and beat the **** out of him. from that day on, every time I jogged by that dog ran and hid under the porch.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Dog owners that are care-free about what they'er beast is doing around the neighborhood, should be held accountable. If they'er beast destroys someones property, hurts somebody, craps or pisses in someones property. The owner should be fined for it.
    Or, like in some places the beast is captured, and used for hunting as gator or bear bait.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Your wrong about dogs not attacking people for nothing Oscar...pit bulls do it all the time in florida...and right behind me a Sheriffs Deputy had her k9 atack dog penned and the dog was recently taken from her for attacking and biting two neighbors and the sheriffs dept having two lawsuits on them.
    In fla there are constant reports of unprovoked dog attacks....something has to be done to control DOG OWNERS and make them more responsible for the pets they are responsible for....people shouldnt be afraid to go to their mailbox or walk their pets or ride a bike or walk their neighborhold...
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I can't answer the question because, as previously stated, we don't know all the circumstances. Was the dog trained for violence? Did the owner make reasonable attempts to constrain the dog? Had the owners of the home ever provoked the dog? Has this dog ever been reported for inappropriate behavior?

    There are just too many questions about this case to be certain as to the proper penalty. However, I would say, that in general you are responsible for your pets. ALL ANIMALS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE VIOLENT! They are, after all, animals. They have instincts and those instincts can and do over power even the best training. Dogs are very good at escaping confinement and it is unfortunate that someone lost their life, but as a dog owner your responsibility is to keep your dog confined so as to prevent a situation where instincts take over and the unthinkable happens. Most likely this owner should face a charge equal to or similar to involuntary man slaughter.
    What if it turns out that one of the neighborhood children helped the dog escape?
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Nothing ever happens FOR NO REASON. There's always a reason.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    once, while jogging, I was bitten by a border collie. ran out from the owners yard and nipped me on the back of the heel. I stopped and beat the **** out of him. from that day on, every time I jogged by that dog ran and hid under the porch.
    The BC was trying to "herd" you. You were moving and s/he tried to "herd" you by nipping at your feet, which is what they do to livestock to get them to move.

    IOW, that wasn't an "attack"
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
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