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Thread: Dog owner responsibility

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Animals, especially dogs of larger and/or more aggressive breeds are weapons folks. This is doubly so when the animal has been specifically trained for protection or attack. Just as I am responsible for everything that happens with one of my firearms (yes, even if it has been stolen), these people should be responsible for whatever acts their dog commits.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Here it would depend on circumstances.

    Example 1: I have a chain link fence and no warning signs posted about my dog. Kid sticks their hand through the fence, dog bites them. I'm held responsible for the child's injuries and my dog is quarantined for 7 days to check for rabies.

    Example 2: I have a chain link fence and a warning sign posted about my dog. Kid sticks their hand through fence, dog bites them. I am not responsible for the chid's injuries but my dog is still quarantined.

    Example 3: I have a 10 ft wood fence around my yard. My dog is placed on a runner chain in the back yard. He slips the chain, digs under the fence, attacks a man on the street. I am not held responsible but my dog is quarantined.

    Example 4: I have a 4.5 ft wood fence around my yard. My dog is let loose in the back yard and jumps the fence, biting a man on the street. I'm am held responsible and my dog is quarantined.

    Example 5: Somebody comes into my home (invited or not) and is bit by my dog. I am not responsible, but the dog is quarantined.

    After three quarantines the dog is deemed aggressive and a mandatory termination order is issued.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    IMO, if you own a dog whose breed is known to/capable of human deaths, then you should be STRICTLY liable for its control at all times.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    IMO, if you own a dog whose breed is known to/capable of human deaths, then you should be STRICTLY liable for its control at all times.
    EXACTLY. Here in Massachusetts, I am liable for my firearms at all times. Until the moment I report a firearm STOLEN, I am liable for all of its use. Even if it was stolen out of a locked safe or other secure environment, I am personally liable for its use. Why would/should it be any different with a potentially dangerous DOG?

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Remember the woman who was mauled to death in San Fransisco?

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    Granted, that dog was not a pit bull, but they kill in disproportionate numbers to other breeds.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Over here we've had a recent incident where a dog escaped its yard, broke into the neighbours house and killed a 4 year old. Under current laws all the dog owner receives is a fine, and there's a debate over whether the owner should receive jail time or not. So what do you think, should there be a charge of negligent homicide or something like that for owners who allow their dogs to escape and cause death?
    too few details really.

    how did the dog escape the yard? did it jump a fence? did it break a chain? how was the dog contained? the story/article doesn't tell

    how did the dog "break into" the house? did it kick the door down or break out a window? according to the article, the dog ran into the house. did they have their doors propped open?

    the dog was back on the owner's property when the cops arrived. did the dog escape, run into the neighbor's house, chew the hell out of these kids and then run home? seems odd behavior even for a pit.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    I misread the portion regarding the police using pepper spray on a dog the previous saturday to mean that the dog that got sprayed was this dog before I voted and reread it correctly after my vote was cast.

    If the dog had a violent history at all, it should not have been outside unsupervised, IMO, and the owners should be charged with negligent homicide or something similar.

    But if the dog just snapped for some reason, that would be a different story.

    Usually, there is a history prior to these kinds of things. Usually, but not always.

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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    too few details really.

    how did the dog escape the yard? did it jump a fence? did it break a chain? how was the dog contained? the story/article doesn't tell

    how did the dog "break into" the house? did it kick the door down or break out a window? according to the article, the dog ran into the house. did they have their doors propped open?

    the dog was back on the owner's property when the cops arrived. did the dog escape, run into the neighbor's house, chew the hell out of these kids and then run home? seems odd behavior even for a pit.
    There's a picture at the link of the fence around the property. It's not very high.

    And some breeds, while not particularly aggressive towards humans (and pit bulls are generally very freindly to humans) are known to have a high prey drive (ie hunting instinct). When allowed to roam free, they can become over-excited and end up attacking humans. My dog is half Chow-Chow and they're known to have a strong prey drive. She is never off-leash except in a well-secured area

    No dog should be allowed to roam free or left unattended in a place where they can escape.

    PS - chain link fences aren't good enough. Some dogs can actually climb up a chain link fence. I once saw a Cocker Spaniel climb 5 feet up a tree.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    There should definitely be charges against the owner, as well as jail time. It doesn't matter to me if he did take "reasonable precautions" or not. A little girl is dead. My little girl is four, and it sickens me to think that she could die as a result of someone else's actions, (or carelessness). If that happened, who knows what I would do to who ever I believed to be responsible.

    Terribly tragic.
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    Re: Dog owner responsibility

    Also, I wonder if those who voted no have children.
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