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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    I can't believe in 2011 anyone would even need to debate the question of overpopulation. Intellectuals and scientists proved overpopulation was a serious problem decades ago. Overpopulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Overpopulation is a condition where an organism's numbers exceed the carrying capacity of its habitat. The term often refers to the relationship between the human population and its environment, the Earth. Steve Jones, head of the biology department at University College London, has said, "Humans are 10,000 times more common than we should be, according to the rules of the animal kingdom, and we have agriculture to thank for that. Without farming, the world population would probably have reached half a million by now." The world’s population has significantly increased in the last 50 years, mainly due to medical advancements and substantial increases in agricultural productivity."

    So we should stop farming?

    Malthusian Catastrophe was proven wrong decades ago.
    Overpopulation concerns are largely for the ignorant, Y2K, Mayan end of the world myth types.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So we should stop farming?

    Malthusian Catastrophe was proven wrong decades ago.
    Overpopulation concerns are largely for the ignorant, Y2K, Mayan end of the world myth types.
    And all indications are that human population will reach equilibrium. May even come down slightly from max numbers as well. I don't think there's much to worry about on that front. I did find the "we're too many because of agriculture" argument. No ****. There are also a lot more humans because of tools as well. It's what humans do. We learn and adapt and change our environment to best suit our proliferation. We will support what we can support and like all system eventually reach equilibrium.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    If you think that we need to restrict "overpopulation" maybe we should quit giving tax breaks for the number of kids a family has first.
    This is where guys like you miss the whole point. We are not talking about is there enough land to build homes for new people. What we are talking about we can not provide jobs for the people we have, (9.2% unemployment). We are talking about our overcrowded freeways. Traffic jams already waste two hours a day for the average American commuter.


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    When I hear remarks like yours I can see Benny 16 right behind you saying, "Make more Catholics." I say Benny "**** off" you ignorant piece or ****. Just what America needs more poor on welfare. Catholics are against a woman's right to choose, against the right to die, (which is legal in two States in spite of Benny). GLBT rights, (tough luck Benny the law over rides you, you ignorant idiot), providing safe houses for illegal immigrants, and priests playing with 12 year old boys. We need to dismantle the Roman Catholic Church, it is UnAmerican.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    When I hear remarks like yours I can see Benny 16 right behind you saying, "Make more Catholics."
    And as I already pointed out (and as you already ignored), the fertility rate statistics from Latin America and Southern Europe do not support this conclusion. Most of these countries are below the replacement rate, at the replacement rate, or just barely above it.

    I say Benny "**** off" you ignorant piece or ****. Just what America needs more poor on welfare. Catholics are against a woman's right to choose, against the right to die, (which is legal in two States in spite of Benny). GLBT rights, (tough luck Benny the law over rides you, you ignorant idiot), providing safe houses for illegal immigrants, and priests playing with 12 year old boys. We need to dismantle the Roman Catholic Church, it is UnAmerican.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Should the U.S. start controlling our population?

    Is there a need for population control? If not, what evidence do you have that there is not? Will there be a need in the near future?

    If so to what degree? I.E. How many children should be allowed? Should control be by economic status or equal to all families?

    I want to get a sense of where people are on this topic
    If you go by the Demographic Transition Model, then the USA is clearly in Stage 4. We have a declining birth rate and an increasing life expectancy.

    India SERIOUSLY needs to have population control, but that will not happen.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    If you go by the Demographic Transition Model, then the USA is clearly in Stage 4. We have a declining birth rate and an increasing life expectancy.

    India SERIOUSLY needs to have population control, but that will not happen.
    India is topping off, they and China are entering their periods of "fully industrialized."
    That alone will encourage population control, no central controls are necessary.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    I can't believe in 2011 anyone would even need to debate the question of overpopulation. Intellectuals and scientists proved overpopulation was a serious problem decades ago. Overpopulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Overpopulation is a condition where an organism's numbers exceed the carrying capacity of its habitat. The term often refers to the relationship between the human population and its environment, the Earth. Steve Jones, head of the biology department at University College London, has said, "Humans are 10,000 times more common than we should be, according to the rules of the animal kingdom, and we have agriculture to thank for that. Without farming, the world population would probably have reached half a million by now." The world’s population has significantly increased in the last 50 years, mainly due to medical advancements and substantial increases in agricultural productivity."
    Technology has increased so dramatically that we could provide a better standard of living for more people than there are now quite easily. The issue is that this technology is not around in the places that need it most... India, China, South East Asia and much of Africa.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    India is topping off, they and China are entering their periods of "fully industrialized."
    That alone will encourage population control, no central controls are necessary.
    India is at 1.1/1.2 Billion and by 2050 they are projected to top 1.7 Billion.
    They have more Untouchables and poor wandering gypsies in their Caste System nightmare than the population of North America.
    India is barely a Stage 3 nation. They are developing, but not anywhere close to a fully industrialized nation.
    There notion of birth control is almost non-existent. It is a culture difference. Indians vew a bigger family as a more successful family.

    India is going to face some major issues in the next 50 years.

    At the same time, China is industrializing at it's city centers and their population of 1.2 Billion is projected to slow down and only reach 1.4 billion by 2050.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    India is at 1.1/1.2 Billion and by 2050 they are projected to top 1.7 Billion.
    They have more Untouchables and poor wandering gypsies in their Caste System nightmare than the population of North America.
    India is barely a Stage 3 nation. They are developing, but not anywhere close to a fully industrialized nation.
    There notion of birth control is almost non-existent. It is a culture difference. Indians vew a bigger family as a more successful family.

    India is going to face some major issues in the next 50 years.

    At the same time, China is industrializing at it's city centers and their population of 1.2 Billion is projected to slow down and only reach 1.4 billion by 2050.
    Could of swore I saw stats for population were leveling out.
    In many of the city centers where their middle class is growing the population replacement rates have started to mimic other industrialized nations.

    I do agree that their caste system is royally screwed up though.
    Makes it harder for people to advance.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Could of swore I saw stats for population were leveling out.
    In many of the city centers where their middle class is growing the population replacement rates have started to mimic other industrialized nations.

    I do agree that their caste system is royally screwed up though.
    Makes it harder for people to advance.
    The middle class ARE mimicking more industrialized nations, you are correct.
    The issue is that the middle class of India is only around 50 million of the 1.2 BILLION.

    I think something like 45% of Indians live BELOW the international poverty line.
    That is 500 or so million. Another 500 million are considered very poor to poor.

    Something like 20-25% of the poorest people on Earth live in India.

    It's just crazy...
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