View Poll Results: Should the U.S. start controlling our population?

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Thread: Population Control

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I wonder if people would think "anchor baby" was a racist term. That'd be a new level of stupid.
    I'm sure those folks who would rather not discuss the subject would deem it a racist term, and attempt to have it blacklisted. After all, how can one make an objection to the "anchor baby" phenomenon if they are denied the words needed to express the concept, let alone an objection to the phenomenon?

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    Re: Population Control

    No, for several reasons.

    1. The US doesn't have a population problem. We're a geographically huge, resource-rich country with a fraction of the population density of most other developed countries. There's no population problem. What we have is a resource over-use problem. And because population control is a slow, long-term approach, it will have no beneficial effect in the immediate or even midterm future, which is what we need - we need something that will help right now. While it certainly wouldn't hurt for us to bring our population down, it is not enough of a problem to even begin to justify the fact that...

    2. ...It is impossible to enforce population control without violating people's rights. I'm pro-choice. That means I don't believe in coercing a woman into aborting any more than I do coercing her into continuing a pregnancy. Not ok. People have a right to bodily sovereignty. And besides...

    3. ...There's other stuff that works better. Namely education. China trying to force their populace to limit their families has been less successful than the efforts of education, highly available birth control, opportunities for women, and good health care. This works better. Countries that have those things have lower birth rates... sometimes lower than China. And it also avoids that pesky problem of stomping all over people's right to their bodies and lives.
    Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 11-14-11 at 10:19 AM.

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    Re: Population Control

    The United States is not overpopulated. There is no need for population control here. Very few, if any, industrialized (first world?) nations suffer from overpopulation. An aging population, with a shortage of young people, is a much more substantial problem. If there is any population control to be had here, it would be killing off the old people, not preventing births of new young people. Not saying that exterminating the aged is necessary, moral, or recommended, just that preventing more people from being born is even less necessary or recommended.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The United States is not overpopulated. There is no need for population control here. Very few, if any, industrialized (first world?) nations suffer from overpopulation. An aging population, with a shortage of young people, is a much more substantial problem. If there is any population control to be had here, it would be killing off the old people, not preventing births of new young people. Not saying that exterminating the aged is necessary, moral, or recommended, just that preventing more people from being born is even less necessary or recommended.
    That may be a problem in the short term, but it will balance out and I don't think it's a problem worth correcting (and I would really debate whether it's as much a problem in the US as it is in Europe). While we may not be over-populated, I don't think it'd be a bad thing for us to reduce our population given our extremely heavy consumption. I don't think that's the only thing we should do by any means - and it's probably the least important. But it's worth the temporary imbalance, to my mind.
    Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 11-14-11 at 07:51 PM.

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