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    Re: Population Control

    apparently since there is a misunderstanding/miscommunication...let me clear it up.

    my position is and has been that the govt should not force us to support poor people who make stupid decisions and have kids that they cannot support. being raped and having a child is not a stupid decision on the part of a poor woman. therefore, the fact that such rapes occur is in no way a flaw in my arguement.

    now, unless someone would like to argue that poor woman choose to be raped..the issue is irrelevent.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Should the U.S. start controlling our population?

    Is there a need for population control? If not, what evidence do you have that there is not? Will there be a need in the near future?

    If so to what degree? I.E. How many children should be allowed? Should control be by economic status or equal to all families?

    I want to get a sense of where people are on this topic
    Sorry, but the onus is on you, dude. Have you check the population increased through immigration (including illegal)?
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And how is allowing children to suffer punishing the "stupid" behavior of thier parents? Also how do you account for accidents? You know...condoms breaking, contraceptives failing. Or how about women that are raped? Should a child born via a raped woman be allowed to suffer just because his mother is poor and his father raped his mother?
    Your trying to make exceptions the rule is a specious argument.
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    Re: Population Control

    Perhaps instead of population control we can, you know, deport the 20 million illegal aliens in our country?

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Perhaps instead of population control we can, you know, deport the 20 million illegal aliens in our country?
    but...but..but...what about their innocent children who were born here?
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually it was quite deliberate.
    ah. so you meant to destroy your own argument by pointing out that non-competitive species get destroyed.

    Depends on the situation. I give my money out based on situation not a percentage. I also give my time. Your 10% actually sounds like it is done due to a tithe because of your religion or because of some sort of socially acceptable amount to give out mentality...kind of like tipping a waitress.
    well you are correct - God says give away 10%, and so I give away 10%. So you do not regularly donate to charity?

    As for the rates of giving...don't really care as I'm neither solely conservative or solely liberal in my thinking. My claim to being an Independent is about more than just a political stance.
    well it impacts the discussion here. for all the charges of heartlessness thrown at them; those who believe the state has less of a role to play in redistributing wealth to the poor actually give significantly more to them than those who disagree.

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but...but..but...what about their innocent children who were born here?
    I think Bruce Hornsby said it best, "You can't go where they go because you don't look like they die (or think like they do)." Ah, but don't you believe them .
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but...but..but...what about their innocent children who were born here?
    They get to go with their parents, no worries. We wouldn't separate the family.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They get to go with their parents, no worries. We wouldn't separate the family.
    but that's not fair...the anchor babies are US citizens
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    I wonder if people would think "anchor baby" was a racist term. That'd be a new level of stupid.

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