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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What actual suffering are you currently under right now? (related to this topic of course)
    what part of "later" is too difficult for you to understand?

    how many times throughout history have we seen example of uncontrolled population growth lead to famine?

    like it or not, the earth is a closed system with a finite amount of resources. If we don't take steps to control our population growth now, mother nature is going to do it for us later. and, trust me, it will not be pretty.


    don't know about you, but I don't want my kids and grandkids to have to survive by eating soylent green
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    there's that vicious cycle again. can't punish the child, so we allow the parent to continue to make poor choices. the child, growing up in that environment sees that there are no consequences for making poor choices, and therefore grows up to make poor choices of their own.

    it may be heartless, but as I have said before. better some suffer now, than we all suffer later.

    stupidy should be painful, that's the only way to break the cycle.
    Do you not get that not everyone can be in the top 1%, not everyone can be in the 20%, not EVERYONE can be poor. It is the demographics that make up our society and unless we redistribute the wealth it will still be our demographics of society.

    BTW, when does a child (In your plan) learn that he was born into a sub-class and will never get to be anything? This is raping the innocents of children on a whole new scale.
    Last edited by Jryan; 11-07-11 at 10:22 AM.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I think the govt should INDIRECTLY control how many kids are born by refusing to pay to support the kids of people who have them and can't/won't support them.
    Even if the government stopped helping it would not deter people having kids. This should be evidenced by the fact that this worlds population has continued to grow for thousands of years. The only time that there has been an actual drop was due to wars, disease, or natural castastrophy.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Nope because, not saying I do, if I did community service it is not so I can come on here and tell you. I wont tell you, in fact, because then you know something about me personally. The only thing people know about me on this forum is that I'm a student. From that they have deducted to call me kid, etc etc. So this is why I won't tell you if I do or don't do community service because to do so would just give you another thing to throw in my face.

    Thanks for playing.
    You don't do community service.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Do you not get that not everyone can be in the top 1%, not everyone can be in the 20%, not EVERYONE can be poor. It is the demographics that make up our society and unless we redistribute the wealth it will still be our demographics of society.

    BTW, when does a child (In your plan) learn that he was born into a sub-class and will never get to be anything? This is raping the innocents of children on a whole new scale.
    we learn by example. if the example we are shown is that all you have to do is sit back and cry and someone else will take care of you. that is what you will most likely do.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You don't do community service.
    Says you. I think I'll trust another source on this one.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Even if the government stopped helping it would not deter people having kids. This should be evidenced by the fact that this worlds population has continued to grow for thousands of years. The only time that there has been an actual drop was due to wars, disease, or natural castastrophy.
    then, those people and their kids should suffer the natural consequences of their stupidity.

    we would do well to take a lesson from the animals. the weak, sick, infirm, etc are the first to die. it helps keep the herd (aka society) healthy and viable.



    All we have accomplished with our decades of govt entitlements that allow the stupid to survive is to weaken our society.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Says you. I think I'll trust another source on this one.
    Prove me wrong.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what part of "later" is too difficult for you to understand?

    how many times throughout history have we seen example of uncontrolled population growth lead to famine?
    Zero. Famine is normally caused by wars, disease or a natural castastrophy. Never has it been caused by over population as whenever an area became over populated people just moved on to greener pastures so to speak.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then, those people and their kids should suffer the natural consequences of their stupidity
    Right because people choose to be stupid.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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