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    Re: Population Control

    I love it when people squeal about denying rights to the poor.

    I have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    however, if it makes me happy to kill people, do I have the "right" to squeal and cry about my "rights" being denied because the govt won't let me commit murder?
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Really, that is your logic.

    Is that all ya got for a response?


    Thanks for playing.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    their "right" to have kids ends when they expect someone else to pay for it


    I'm not saying that the govt should say: OK poor people, you can only have one kid

    I am saying that the govt should say: OK poor people, you can have as many kids as you want. We just aren't going to force other people to pay to support them.



    and then if they are still stupid enough to keep having kids they can't support. too ****ing bad for them.
    I will agree, there is some truth to this. If a single mother is living in poverty it is a poor decision for her to have a child, but we can't punish the child for the mothers bad decision.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I love it when people squeal about denying rights to the poor.

    I have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    however, if it makes me happy to kill people, do I have the "right" to squeal and cry about my "rights" being denied because the govt won't let me commit murder?
    Oh they will let you murder they will just throw you in jail for doing so. hehe
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I will agree, there is some truth to this. If a single mother is living in poverty it is a poor decision for her to have a child, but we can't punish the child for the mothers bad decision.
    there's that vicious cycle again. can't punish the child, so we allow the parent to continue to make poor choices. the child, growing up in that environment sees that there are no consequences for making poor choices, and therefore grows up to make poor choices of their own.

    it may be heartless, but as I have said before. better some suffer now, than we all suffer later.

    stupidy should be painful, that's the only way to break the cycle.
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    Re: Population Control

    I have to wonder how many people have voted more than once in this poll. I doubt very seriously that 89 different people actually believe that the government should control how many kids are born. At least I sincerly hope that isn't the case.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Oh they will let you murder they will just throw you in jail for doing so. hehe
    hehe... and poor people can have all the kids they want, we will just let them starve.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Is that all ya got for a response?


    Thanks for playing.
    Nope because, not saying I do, if I did community service it is not so I can come on here and tell you. I wont tell you, in fact, because then you know something about me personally. The only thing people know about me on this forum is that I'm a student. From that they have deducted to call me kid, etc etc. So this is why I won't tell you if I do or don't do community service because to do so would just give you another thing to throw in my face.

    Thanks for playing.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    there's that vicious cycle again. can't punish the child, so we allow the parent to continue to make poor choices. the child, growing up in that environment sees that there are no consequences for making poor choices, and therefore grows up to make poor choices of their own.

    it may be heartless, but as I have said before. better some suffer now, than we all suffer later.

    stupidy should be painful, that's the only way to break the cycle.
    What actual suffering are you currently under right now? (related to this topic of course)
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I have to wonder how many people have voted more than once in this poll. I doubt very seriously that 89 different people actually believe that the government should control how many kids are born. At least I sincerly hope that isn't the case.
    I think the govt should INDIRECTLY control how many kids are born by refusing to pay to support the kids of people who have them and can't/won't support them.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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