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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Again, how do you know what I do with my free time? You keep saying "you", aka me...
    If you did something you'd have thrown it in to give yourself more credibility by now. That you haven't means you haven't.... simple deduction.

    Why do you doom children to starvation and suffering by not donating your time?
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's right, don't abort them! Let em live. But once they're out of the womb, **** 'em.
    once they're out of the womb, let their own parents take care of them. this isn't Clan of the Cave bear. we have known where babies come from for thousands of years. If you are a poor person who is barely making ends meet on minimum wage, you should be doing everything in your power to ensure you don't have any ****ing kids that you can't support. free condoms from the health clinic....double bag if you have to. maybe the girlfriend/wife should learn to like it up the butt.

    If you are too stupid, irresponsible or lazy to prevent having kids that you can't support....maybe it IS time that the government be responsible for you.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Parents are ultimately responsible... they're the ones doing the ****in'.
    I agree. Which is why I think the whole abortion debate is kinda idiotic IMHO, seeing as the real problem is people having babies they don't want because of irresponsible behavior.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If you did something you'd have thrown it in to give yourself more credibility by now. That you haven't means you haven't.... simple deduction.

    Why do you doom children to starvation and suffering by not donating your time?
    Really, that is your logic.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    China is doing just fine and look at their population.
    last I checked they also have a govt mandated population control policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    last I checked they also have a govt mandated population control policy
    Right because there is LITERALLY no place for the children to live. Also note, I was only against government mandating that only the poor can have a certain amount of kids. I also voted yes.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right because there is LITERALLY no place for the children to live. Also note, I was only against government mandating that only the poor can have a certain amount of kids. I also voted yes.
    well, since it is the poor who can't support their kids, it is only logical that they be the ones who are limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    well, since it is the poor who can't support their kids, it is only logical that they be the ones who are limited.
    Right, what other rights should they not have?
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right, what other rights should they not have?
    their "right" to have kids ends when they expect someone else to pay for it


    I'm not saying that the govt should say: OK poor people, you can only have one kid

    I am saying that the govt should say: OK poor people, you can have as many kids as you want. We just aren't going to force other people to pay to support them.



    and then if they are still stupid enough to keep having kids they can't support. too ****ing bad for them.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree. Which is why I think the whole abortion debate is kinda idiotic IMHO, seeing as the real problem is people having babies they don't want because of irresponsible behavior.
    There are levels of responsible behavior. The highest level of such behavior is to use contraception - such a thing is not unknown in developed countries. There are sub-levels of contraception as well (leaving morality out of it for now) where yes, it's unfortunate but, women take on a majority of responsibility here since they get stuck with the unwanted child. At the very least, condoms or the birth control pills which are provided at NO cost by organizations like Planned Parenthood. Ditching a fetus is the worst scenario... my view is if abortion is to remain legal, it should have serious consequences. I shouldn't just be able to go down to the clinic, write a check and be relieved of the responsibility. There should be additional responsibility and accountability either money, work, social work, basically making an abortion more involved and requiring those who have an abortion to give back to the society which allows it to be carried out.

    I don't have specifics yet, but I'd say it has to involved time and not just money to be provided back to society.
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