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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    How is he punishing them? Why are you punishing them? Why are you on the internet on a political forum when you should be out taking care of the poor children who are starving? How do you live with yourself?
    It is called taxes. The funny thing is, you probably don't even see a flaw here. (Hint: In World War II the rich people could just pay to not get drafted.)
    Last edited by Jryan; 11-07-11 at 09:38 AM.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    It is called taxes.


    Are you saying your responsibility ends when you pay taxes and it's someone else's responsibility after that?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Are you saying your responsibility ends when you pay taxes and it's someone else's responsibility after that?
    Yes, you pay taxes so you don't have to go baby sit some random poor person's baby while they are at work or personally go over there and bring the groceries. And the responsibility falls on the mother after the small assistance they get from child care.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yes, you pay taxes so you don't have to go baby sit some random poor person's baby while they are at work or personally go over there and bring the groceries. And the responsibility falls on the mother after the small assistance they get from child care.
    Even Conservatives don't believe that's where responsibility ends.... many still contribute over and above taxes to something called "charity", and others still go further by donating their time and efforts in helping feed homeless, taking care of hungry children etc., at various shelters, homes and making sure they get the attention when the tax dollars do not address their problems, or for those kids that slip through the cracks.

    Since you said "Yes" to my question, you don't give a **** about kids at all. Thanks for confirming and showing your disingenuous views and arguments.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Because they are innocent children, why should you punish them because you don't "care"? Also, I'd like to add, your children benefit more from the way society is setup.
    ah, the typical hand-wringing and bed-wetting.... OMFG...think of the innocent children.

    boo ****ing hoo, maybe their sorry ass parents should have thought about that before they had them.

    it's a vicious cycle and libs like you are too weak to ever break it.

    step 1. mommy and daddy are worthless lazy POS

    step 2. they have a bunch of kids

    step 3. libs squeal "think of the children"

    step 4. we pay more taxes to take care of these kids

    step 5. mommy and daddy get to continue being worthless, lazy POS

    step 6. kids grow up to be worthless, lazy POS just like mommy and daddy

    step 7. we get to pay even more taxes to support all the kids that they will have.


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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ah, the typical hand-wringing and bed-wetting.... OMFG...think of the innocent children.

    boo ****ing hoo, maybe their sorry ass parents should have thought about that before they had them.

    it's a vicious cycle and libs like you are too weak to ever break it.

    step 1. mommy and daddy are worthless lazy POS

    step 2. they have a bunch of kids

    step 3. libs squeal "think of the children"

    step 4. we pay more taxes to take care of these kids

    step 5. mommy and daddy get to continue being worthless, lazy POS

    step 6. kids grow up to be worthless, lazy POS just like mommy and daddy

    step 7. we get to pay even more taxes to support all the kids that they will have.
    It's the classic tax grab.... yell about the poor children, hike taxes, and make sure the children's funding doesn't get cut while using the additional taxes for ideological pet projects. The poor and the "children" are trotted out every election cycle and we don't hear about them until the following election cycle.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Even Conservatives don't believe that's where responsibility ends.... many still contribute over and above taxes to something called "charity", and others still go further by donating their time and efforts in helping feed homeless, taking care of hungry children etc., at various shelters, homes and making sure they get the attention when the tax dollars do not address their problems, or for those kids that slip through the cracks.

    Since you said "Yes" to my question, you don't give a **** about kids at all. Thanks for confirming and showing your disingenuous views and arguments.
    Right, thank you for taking something way out of context spinning it and then deciding to write something about it. Anywhere in there did I say "I"? Just wandering, was it in first second or third person? Thanks for playing...
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's the classic tax grab.... yell about the poor children, hike taxes, and make sure the children's funding doesn't get cut while using the additional taxes for ideological pet projects. The poor and the "children" are trotted out every election cycle and we don't hear about them until the following election cycle.
    Right because they don't build more schools or increase welfare payouts.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right, thank you for taking something way out of context spinning it and then deciding to write something about it. Anywhere in there did I say "I"? Just wandering, was it in first second or third person? Thanks for playing...
    I think you're responsibility in this thread ended already... you've done your part, been found disingenuous and now just want to do damage control? How about you go volunteer at a homeless shelter today and show us all how NOT to be a hypocrite.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think you're responsibility in this thread ended already... you've done your part, been found disingenuous and now just want to do damage control? How about you go volunteer at a homeless shelter today and show us all how NOT to be a hypocrite.
    Again, personal insults, how do you know what I do with my free time?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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