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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    "Welfare class women."
    Yes, ever heard of them?

    These are women of the lowest socioeconomic class that have been raised on public assistance, often by parents who were raised on public assistance, whose parents, in turn, were also raised on public assistance.

    The Welfare Class is that socioeconomic class for whom bastardy and dependency upon public assistance have, unfortunately, evolved into cultural mores.

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    Re: Population Control

    Historically, the lower/middle class always said that that the upper class would have never accumulated wealth except because of all the work of the lower/middle class. The upper class always said that the lower/middle class would not have anything that they have without the jobs created and investments made by the upper class.

    The welfare class doesn't get to use that argument. This major new culture/society basically is evolving outside of the traditional market made classes.

    A thread was started earlier in one of the non-political forums where someone equated a fetus to a parasite. The articles and defiitions used on both sides of the debate got me to thinking that essentially the welfare class is a type of social parasitic relationship except that, in some cases, the offspring of the parasite develops into a host.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And as I already pointed out (and as you already ignored), the fertility rate statistics from Latin America and Southern Europe do not support this conclusion. Most of these countries are below the replacement rate, at the replacement rate, or just barely above it.
    I would love to see some factual links bearing out your statistics. But, we will never see them. You hit and run when documentation of your position is requested.

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Technology has increased so dramatically that we could provide a better standard of living for more people than there are now quite easily. The issue is that this technology is not around in the places that need it most... India, China, South East Asia and much of Africa.
    Bottom line is we only have so many jobs on this planet. From the looks of things the United States is going to have fewer quality jobs in the future. Yet, we have certain groups who keep reproducing like cock roaches with six or 8 or 10 kids. The way we handle the excess now is to just kick them down the food chain. Is this what we want, or should we think it through, stand up, and devise a system of birth control?

    I have no problem kicking peons down the food chain, but it just does not look good for our so-called civilized society. My parents had two children because this is how many they felt they could afford to send to college. That is REAL planned parenthood. Pedro and his seven sisters and brothers will never make it to my level on the food chain. They will be washing dishes in my favorite restaurant with dead dreams, and no aspirations. Even they would admit they would have been better off unborn, because they will never compete with me, or my family and enjoy our standard of living. Like they say over at American Airlines there are only so many seats in first class. I may not be in first class, but I am on the plane, not the bus or walking.



    Won't happen in the U.S.A. for insurance reasons.
    No more third world crap coming to the United States.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    I would love to see some factual links bearing out your statistics. But, we will never see them. You hit and run when documentation of your position is requested.
    Already provided:

    Fertility rates:
    Venezuela - 2.42
    Argentina - 2.31
    Mexico - 2.29
    Brazil - 2.18
    Colombia - 2.15
    Costa Rica - 1.93
    Chile - 1.88
    Portugal - 1.50
    Spain - 1.47
    Italy - 1.39

    The replacement rate is approximately 2.1, so if the Catholic Church is encouraging its adherents to "squat and drop" as you so tactfully put it, they aren't doing a very good job.
    The source is the CIA World Factbook.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...orld-factbook/
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    First and foremost. I have none of those problems. No traffic jams, no long commutes, etc. If you don't like that, leave the city. They are one in the same. Secondly, we have 9.2% unemployment because we have an IDIOT in the white house. Talk about ignorance. And how about sticking to the topic instead of rambling off on your own asinine idealism.
    Sounds like we have a Papist here pushing for the mass production of Roman Catholics! Surveys show that over 60% of Americans blame Bush for the economy and unemployment. Do you know even know what the topic of this thread is? When you open with name-calling like yours, this makes you a guy who is out of arguments in this debate. I'll take the win.

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Already provided:



    The source is the CIA World Factbook.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...orld-factbook/
    1). Your link is not to the page where these facts appear. I do not have all day to verify your research.

    2). IF your information is correct, anything over 2 is too much. And don't try to throw in European countries to skew your information your way. This is bull sh*t.

    3). There are too many illegals in the United States, 12,000,000 I understand. We don't want any of those freeloaders here. They absorb $113 BILLION a year in taxpayer dollars as is. Can you get the Vatican to pick up this tab?

    I thought not.

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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    Bottom line is we only have so many jobs on this planet. From the looks of things the United States is going to have fewer quality jobs in the future. Yet, we have certain groups who keep reproducing like cock roaches with six or 8 or 10 kids. The way we handle the excess now is to just kick them down the food chain. Is this what we want, or should we think it through, stand up, and devise a system of birth control?

    I have no problem kicking peons down the food chain, but it just does not look good for our so-called civilized society. My parents had two children because this is how many they felt they could afford to send to college. That is REAL planned parenthood. Pedro and his seven sisters and brothers will never make it to my level on the food chain. They will be washing dishes in my favorite restaurant with dead dreams, and no aspirations. Even they would admit they would have been better off unborn, because they will never compete with me, or my family and enjoy our standard of living. Like they say over at American Airlines there are only so many seats in first class. I may not be in first class, but I am on the plane, not the bus or walking.



    Won't happen in the U.S.A. for insurance reasons.
    No more third world crap coming to the United States.
    You are asking developing world societies to look a the issue as we do in the developed world. They don't see it yet. You are not better then they are because you happened to be born here and they weren't, or that you were raised with certain understandings and they weren't. You were just lucky... like me. I will pass that luck onto my kids. The world is moving at such a rapid pace that these people need time to learn and catch up. The world has as many jobs as it needs... Look at Dharavi, for instance. Sustainable living in one of the worst and most overpopulated slums in the world.

    My point stands...
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    Bottom line is we only have so many jobs on this planet. From the looks of things the United States is going to have fewer quality jobs in the future. Yet, we have certain groups who keep reproducing like cock roaches with six or 8 or 10 kids. The way we handle the excess now is to just kick them down the food chain. Is this what we want, or should we think it through, stand up, and devise a system of birth control?

    I have no problem kicking peons down the food chain, but it just does not look good for our so-called civilized society. My parents had two children because this is how many they felt they could afford to send to college. That is REAL planned parenthood. Pedro and his seven sisters and brothers will never make it to my level on the food chain. They will be washing dishes in my favorite restaurant with dead dreams, and no aspirations. Even they would admit they would have been better off unborn, because they will never compete with me, or my family and enjoy our standard of living. Like they say over at American Airlines there are only so many seats in first class. I may not be in first class, but I am on the plane, not the bus or walking.



    Won't happen in the U.S.A. for insurance reasons.
    No more third world crap coming to the United States.
    Maybe we should rework our economy so having a full time job isn't essential, then.
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    Re: Population Control

    Quote Originally Posted by L. A. Fairfax View Post
    1). Your link is not to the page where these facts appear. I do not have all day to verify your research.
    Have you never used the CIA World Factbook before? You pick a country or a category and view the statistics you want.
    Here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2127rank.html

    2). IF your information is correct, anything over 2 is too much.
    Wrong, anything over 2.1 will tend to increase the population, albeit slowly. And most Catholic countries are pretty close to that replacement rate (or below it). The only ones considerably above it are the very poor countries like Bolivia and Haiti.

    And don't try to throw in European countries to skew your information your way. This is bull sh*t.
    Why? When you make ignorant comments like the Catholic Church wants people to "squat and drop," it's perfectly legitimate to include Catholic countries to prove you wrong (although the figures from Latin America are sufficient to prove you wrong anyway).

    3). There are too many illegals in the United States, 12,000,000 I understand. We don't want any of those freeloaders here. They absorb $113 BILLION a year in taxpayer dollars as is.
    Irrelevant to the subject at hand.

    Can you get the Vatican to pick up this tab?
    I thought not.
    I don't know what your obsession with the Catholic Church is, but it has no relevance to overpopulation. And the fact that you didn't even know that Southern Europe and Latin America are not exactly fast-growing regions, shows that you don't know nearly as much about the subject as you think you do.
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