View Poll Results: Do you think socialism could have succeeded if capitalism wasn't standing on the way?

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And just what am I supposed to do with no money and lots of free time? Sleep? Watch flowers grow? Discuss the birds and the bees with my buddies over a cup of Taster's Choice?

    The things I do take money. Football tickets aren't cheap (except when I went to U of M). Skiing is a rather expensive sport. Gas is three and a half bucks a gallon.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper
    Because eventually you'd lack viable ways to contribute. Of course, I keep forgetting that resources are unlimited, as is demand, so you could just work as much as you want because there will always be some use for whatever you make.

    God bless the LTV, laughable as it is.
    Who ever said that resources are unlimited? WTF does the labor theory of value have to do with anything at all?
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Aw shucks. My heart bleeds for your proletarian dreams.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    ALL socialists are utopian socialists.
    Uhh no...... No.. Not at all...


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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    About 22 years ago socialism gave up and started disintegrating. Do you think it could have succeeded if capitalism wasn't standing on the way? You know, if capitalism didn't oppose and let it be?

    Socialism is very much alive and well. Many socialist ideals have been incorporated into Capitalist societies as a supplemental component to benefit the unfortunate. Socialism in itself is not a great system, neither is capitalism, when it comes to very large societies. In small groups either one can work great, but in societies that range in the hundreds of millions, a hybrid system works pretty damn good to benefit the different social classes.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Most socialists are lazy whiners with a chip on their shoulder and holding a grudge against everyone who did succeed with the attitude of "If I don't have it neither can you"

    . . . spoiled rotten brat montage.
    And how many socialists have you met in your sheltered, parochial existence? Say what you will about me, I don't make sweeping generalizations about people that I've never come into contact with personally.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    And how many socialists have you met in your sheltered, parochial existence? Say what you will about me, I don't make sweeping generalizations about people that I've never come into contact with personally.
    LOL - I'm time warp back to 9-27-2011 and chastise my 31 year old self for you if that makes you feel better about it . . . but she won't listen to anyone - especially me.

    In 2011 all supposed 'socialists' must have come across as nothing but a bunch of whining babies for me to be so harsh about it.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    About 22 years ago socialism gave up and started disintegrating. Do you think it could have succeeded if capitalism wasn't standing on the way? You know, if capitalism didn't oppose and let it be?



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    Lol..



    No. Socialism is a failed economic model. I'm not even completely pro capitalist and I accept that truth.



    Even though I'm not rich I openly accept the universal truth that the problem with the world is not wealth but that there isn't enough wealth. Having rich people is good for poor people. Making it harder for rich people is an illusion. All you're really doing with Socialism is assuring the poor people stay in their class forever.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    About 22 years ago socialism gave up and started disintegrating. Do you think it could have succeeded if capitalism wasn't standing on the way? You know, if capitalism didn't oppose and let it be?

    Socialism by itself wouldn't work, neither would any system. The hybrid system we have has yielded some pretty good results so far, even with its faults.
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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Socialism is just government's excuse to control every facet of our lives. Talk about the death of individual liberties.

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