View Poll Results: Do you think socialism could have succeeded if capitalism wasn't standing on the way?

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Thread: Socialism could have succeeded?

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Can you own your own thriving corporation under socialism?

    No....
    But you implied you cant own anything.
    Sure you can own your car, your fridge, your house, your food, your money, your TV, your xbox, your property.
    The workplace is under worker ownership. Hence the workers own it.

    Are you telling me the people aren't heavily regulated under socialism?
    "Regulated"? What do you mean by "regulated"?


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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No....
    But you implied you cant own anything.
    Sure you can own your car, your fridge, your house, your food, your money, your TV, your xbox, your property.
    The workplace is under worker ownership. Hence the workers own it.


    "Regulated"? What do you mean by "regulated"?
    You and the schmuck thought I implied that. No. Peopl like owning things and with socialism you can't own your own corporation. That's a pretty big thing if you want a business.

    How restricted is free speech under socialism?
    Guns?
    The right to buy things?
    Which things can you own?

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well you can still act under your best interest.
    Really?
    Can I start a company? Can I create my own wealth?
    Can I own property and use it to my best interest?
    Can I keep what I earn and not have it redistributed to those that did not earn it?
    Nyet.

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You and the schmuck

    Im crying you called me a "schmuck".... Ouch! It hurts soo deep

    thought I implied that.
    Here is what you said, "People like owning things." Now the word "things" carries many meanings. "Things" can be pratically anything... Toys, guns, money, clothes, steroes, sex toys, take ya choice it can be anything! It can even mean a business... Sooooo yea...


    No. Peopl like owning things
    Oh here we go with "things" again... You can own things. One individual however can not own the whole workplace!

    and with socialism you can't own your own corporation.
    Well if you want to get technical shareholders own a corporation...
    But the workplace under socialism would be owned by all the workers...

    That's a pretty big thing if you want a business.
    What one individual owning the whole workplace. Being the dictator of the workplace?


    How restricted is free speech under socialism?
    Like stated before... "Do you even know what the **** socialism is?"
    Socialism is an economic policy not a governing policy. Its not a socioeconomic policy like Leninism. Its purley an economic policy. I am a democratic socialist. I support freedom of speech to the full...

    Guns?
    Im a socialist and support the 2nd amendment. I actually support the constitution. I own several guns..

    The right to buy things?
    Wait! Are you saying you cant purchase or buy things under socialism? Ill state it again, "Do you even know what the **** socialism is?"
    You buy things under socialism! The same way you buy and give it to consumerism you do it now!!!

    Which things can you own?
    Socialists have no intention of taking away your house, your car, your material possessions, etc.


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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You and the schmuck thought I implied that. No. Peopl like owning things and with socialism you can't own your own corporation. That's a pretty big thing if you want a business.
    The freedom to pursue happiness is all about the freedom to own property and use it to create wealth.
    Under socialiam, the freedom to pursue happiness does not exist.

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Really?
    Yes.
    Can I start a company?
    Yes.
    Can I create my own wealth?
    Yea its called a thing we do everyday. Work.

    Can I own property and use it to my best interest?
    See above.

    Can I keep what I earn and not have it redistributed to those that did not earn it?
    This is a very vague statement but...
    Yea sure.
    Nyet.[/QUOTE]


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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    OK, folks, let's cut that crap and get to the real thing:



    Agree, eh?

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes.
    Yes.
    Yea its called a thing we do everyday. Work.
    See above.
    This is a very vague statement but...
    Yea sure.
    Clearly, - YOU- do not understand socialism.

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How restricted is free speech under socialism?
    Guns?
    The right to buy things?
    Which things can you own?[/I]
    In my vision of an ideal socialist society, you can own private poperty just as you do now and you can even start a small buisness if you want. It's just the large, greedy corporations that own america that I believe should be government run.

    Free speech would be just as restricted as it is now if not less.

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Clearly, - YOU- do not understand socialism.
    No, clearly you don't understand socialism.
    "The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of the evil." -Albert Einstein

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    Re: Socialism could have succeeded?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Clearly, - YOU- do not understand socialism.
    Educate me then PzKfW IVe!
    What is socialism?
    Your the master!


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