I think it could
I think it couldn't
I have never claimed the opposite. Cite me.Then why did you claim the opposite earlier in this thread
You are the one sidetracking here, because if Europe is 60% socialist, whatever that means. It is not socialist anymore. Hence it does not prove the success of socialism. Similarly, Nazism is maybe 60% socialism as well. It still doesn't prove the failure of socialism. To prove the success or failure of socialism, then you have to look at socialist countries, which Europe is not.No, you are sidetracking with straw men. No one has claimed that Europe is 100% socialist.
You need to learn what socialism is. Socialism is not a term that has many different meanings. Socialism is a collection of ideologies, with all of them having some similar ideas. These ideas, can you find in the Oxford definition.No, getting anyone to use YOUR narrow definition is an impossible task. The rest of us recognize that socialism comes in many forms.
The questioned asked in this poll is so stupid it's hardly worth addressing. It's like asking "could people fly if gravity wasn't standing in the way?"
Socialists want to abolish gravity. Not gonna happen. Let's focus our mental energies on something less stupid, shall we?
And I didn't claim that socialism is "just govt takeover". You're arguing another straw man
And if you want to see any official sources from me, read the thread. You obviously have not done that
It's time for you to take your nose out of the dictionaries and textbooks. Out in the real world, most people realize that nothing is pure. We don't have pure capitalism not pure socialism.
Have fun with your hobby horse. Keep beating it
I don't think you have noticed, but the thread is 20 pages long. I'm sure you have your sources readily available, so quote some official sources. BTW; just because someone is a socialist, doesn't make them an official source. You need to rely on Wikipedia, or famous dictionaries.And if you want to see any official sources from me, read the thread. You obviously have not done that
There are of course some leeway, but if a system is clearly not following the principles of socialism, then it is certainly not socialism. Doesn't help if parts of the system is similar to socialism. It still won't be socialism.It's time for you to take your nose out of the dictionaries and textbooks. Out in the real world, most people realize that nothing is pure. We don't have pure capitalism not pure socialism.
The reason I'm so nazi on the textbooks, is to prevent socialists from making their own definitions.
Wikipedia agrees with Oxford Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dictionary.com agrees with the oxford definition
Are they all wrong?