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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    No it is not my opinion that there is no reliable scientific evidence that mental capacity differs among races. That is called a fact.
    You've shown yourself to have the reasoning ability of a rock. Impervious to evidence and reason like a rock is impervious to water.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    How is it that environment created the disparities in intelligence when you are arguing that environment plays no role on our measures of intelligence. You have argued that environmental explanations for disparities in the IQ of African Americans is just excuse making. It seems that you want to have your cake and eat it too.
    link please, I have argued no such thing
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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You've shown yourself to have the reasoning ability of a rock. Impervious to evidence and reason like a rock is impervious to water.
    ...erosion...

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    The question isn't:

    "What is the relative intelligence between races?"

    You're a bit more clever than others here so I'll give you bonus points.

    The real question is:

    Did evolution leave all races with equal physical and mental competency?"

    My question's a bit more general than your more specific question.
    Yes but in order to determine whether or not all races have equal and mental competency then we would first have to list all races and then compare intelligence data between all races. So your question requires us to get specific.
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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    I think Oscar is just saying that many people accept the fact that different environments can cause a single species to divide and evolve into different physical appearances, so why can't different environments cause a single species to divide and evolve into different variations of mental capacities/ways of thinking, ect?

    I think it's a valid point.
    exactly. sadly, the kneejerk reaction of several posters here are evidence that my comment was spot on.
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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    [I]Discussion in another thread gave rise to this poll.

    Simply, do you think evolution, with it's supposed changing of humans, left mental and physical competence equal among all races? I ask because I haven't been given much if any empirical proof or valuable evidence for either side. I, for one, am highly suspicious of the notion that evolution left all races equally intelligent.
    The differences are insignificant, as one would reasonably expect given extremely minor gene pool variations. Different races are not remotely the same thing as different species.

    On the intelligence issue you raise, I am not aware of even a single credible study that shows a statistically significant difference. Some people have made arguments based on reported mean IQ scores, but that is an inadequate basis from which to attempt such conclusions. Unless one can show, for example, the differences are statistically significant e.g., at a 95% level of confidence, one cannot draw the general conclusion you ask about. Furthermore, IQ, itself, only explains a portion of intelligence, and that further complicates the issue.

    For illustrative purposes concerning the statistical issue, the following is a hypothetical case: Let's say there are two groups: A and B. A has a mean score of 110 and B has a mean score of 105. However, A has a standard deviation of 15 points while B has a standard deviation of 12 points. 95% confidence intervals (rounded to the nearest whole number) would be as follows: A: 81 to 139; B: 81 to 129. In other words, either group's true score could fall somewhere in the ranges set forth. On account of the overlap between the two group's ranges, one cannot state that A is better than B due to A's somewhat higher mean score.

    Bottom line: There are no meaningful differences. Statistical rigor, not political correctness, is the basis for reaching such a conclusion.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Then how can we answer the question? We can't study relative intelligence between races if we don't know what races we're discussing.
    How the heck do painters every manage to paint the interior of houses when they don't know what colored paint is because color is a socially constructed metric. When a home owners says he want a room painted blue what the heck does that even mean?

    Clearly that explains why no houses in the world have painted interiors.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes but in order to determine whether or not all races have equal and mental competency then we would first have to list all races and then compare intelligence data between all races. So your question requires us to get specific.
    No, it doesn't, in regards to me.

    I ask the question because I don't know and obviously don't have all of the data regarding it.

    Ergo, I ask here because all ya'll are the supposedly intelligent and argumentative type.

    I can help in trying to answer the question, but don't think I'm going to have all the answers because that's not the nature of the inquisitive one who doesn't know.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You've shown yourself to have the reasoning ability of a rock. Impervious to evidence and reason like a rock is impervious to water.
    see donsutherland's post about the lack of evidence. you always act as if i'm the only one who says the things I do - that's your first mistake since i formed my opinion directly from the the opinions and evidence provided by the scientific community.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    ...erosion...

    ...and Pokemon...
    Except I can't spare a billion years in order to drive understanding into the noggin of theplaydrive.

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