That said, this wasn't really the point of coolwalker's post. He linked culture with different types of evolution - which is silly.
No because culture plays a role in which genes are more likely to get passed on among races - though less and less as the world become smaller thanks to the ease of migration and thus cultural background of various racial groups is changing. In cultures where physical strength is paramount for survival, the strong are who live long enough to reproduce. In cultures where problem-solving is important for survival or providing, that skill gets naturally selected. I could go on, but I think you get the point. It would be foolish to believe that all cultures have naturally selected the same skill set.
I don't want to see religious bigotry in any form. It would disturb me if there was wedding between the religious fundamentalists and political right. The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it. ~ Billy Graham in Parade magazine February 1, 1981.
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I suppose a sensitive person might take any contradicting arguement as "hostility", but that's how debates work.Just more hostility.
That's you speaking from your bias opinion.You still don't take stance on the correct position.. merely TRY to be technical in service of your bias.
I can't be ignoring something and questioning it at the same time. If the study is not conclusive, it's not "incorrect" or "emptily argumentative" to point out that it's inconclusive, in fact, scientific standards demand it.Incorrect and emptily argumentative again.
IOW, You had to Ignore respected Lynn's numbers summarizing 600+ Studies.
This tells me you don't understand how to interpret those results correctly. How do you interpret the means of two populations? That the brains of Asians pooled together is bigger than the Blacks group or that the brain of an Asian is more likely to be bigger than that of a Black person? The first doesn't mean much (so what if the pool of one group is bigger than another?), the second is why we study descriptive statistics and it's a probabilistic interpretation.This we will have to say is beyond 'incorrect' and a simple Big Lie.
Those cranial numbers are Actual autopsy Measurements, not mere "probabilities."
So you've now [had to] ignore all numbers posted.
You claimed I said what? You definite claimed that I was wrong:Show where I claimed you said it was.
That's not how statistical testing is done. "Doing the math" cannot tell you if the difference between the means is significant. Each sample will have its own standard deviations, and you need both, and the means and the sample sizes, to conduct significance testing. You don't seem to understand how to interpret statistics correctly and yet you make very strong claims. My Conclusions, and my arguements, are base on my understanding of statistics and the scientific method, until you can prove me wrong on that ground, calling me "partisan" is an ad hominem, not a logical arguement.1 Standard deviation on IQ is 15 points. Intelligence quotient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In quoting me you again [Had to] Ignore the Lynn Table showing IQ ranging from a 105 high for East Asians to 67 for Subsaharan Africans as low as 54 for Bushmen.
I assume you can do the math if partisanship/gratuitous argumentation doesn't continue to handicap your replies.
Having disposed of nonpariel, who showed he didn't know a what Standard Deviation was, nor it's significance..
as well as spouting/repeating other nonsense which doesn't refute what I said, just went for gratuitous dissociation/multi-quote abuse:
Why Kenyans Make Such Great Runners: A Story of Genes and Cultures - Max Fisher - The Atlantic
“…It turns out that Kenyans’ success may be innate. Two separate, European-led studies in a small region in western Kenya, which produces most of the race-winners, found that young men there could, with only a few months training, reliably outperform some of the West’s best professional runners.
In other words, they appeared to have a Physical advantage that is common to their community, making it probably genetic.
The studies found significant differences in body mass index and bone structure between the Western pros and the Kenyan amateurs who had bested them. The studied Kenyans had Less mass for their height, Longer legs, Shorter torsos, and more Slender limbs. One of the researchers described the Kenyan physical differences as “bird-like,” noting that these traits would make them more efficient runners, especially over long distances.
Racial politics can make the genetics of African athleticism difficult to talk about in the West. Surprisingly, Western popular writing about Kenyans’ running success seems to focus less on these genetic distinctions and more on cultural differences. For years, the cultural argument has been that Kenyans become great runners because they often run several miles to and from school every day. But, about a decade ago, someone started asking actual Kenyans if this was true, and it turned out to be a merely a product of Western imaginations:…”
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I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
Races yes, individuals no. "intelligence per se is not just dependant on evolution but on environmental and personal experiences. Its how YOU learn and WHAT you learn. yes there is an genetic component but its not guarenteed. A brilliant person could produce a severely mentally handicapped child (example).
So overall I think all races started out about the same sort of like Tabla Rosa, but over time and environmental (social) experience there has been some diversion but I think its pretty minimal
"Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".
"There are those who will debate the necessity of wilderness, I will not, either you know it in your bones or you are very very old". Aldo Leopold - Sand County Almanac
Of course, the environment has affected "intelligence".
Man seems to be, usually, no more intelligent than what is necessary to survive..this is my opinion....
And this survival is all important...
Check out the Prussians and the Austrailian aboriginals.