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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what I always find amusing is that people have no problem admitting that environment has affected physical evolution, but if you dare suggest that environment might have affected mental evolution you are suddenly a flaming racist.
    Not really. The problem is that there isn't any reliable scientific evidence that mental capacity differs among "races" so believing the certain races have higher mental capacities than others either comes from ignorance or some other non-scientific place.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's not a fallacy to ask someone what you mean by a specific term.
    "asking your opponent a question which does not have a snappy answer. (Or anyway, no snappy answer that the audience has the background to understand.)" is.

    When I say race it means "all" races. People shouldn't use the Argument by Question fallacy. I don't have the time to collect a complete list; it's just not practical.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    I don't have the time to collect a complete list; it's just not practical.
    Then how can we answer the question? We can't study relative intelligence between races if we don't know what races we're discussing.
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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what I always find amusing is that people have no problem admitting that environment has affected physical evolution, but if you dare suggest that environment might have affected mental evolution you are suddenly a flaming racist.
    How is it that environment created the disparities in intelligence when you are arguing that environment plays no role on our measures of intelligence. You have argued that environmental explanations for disparities in the IQ of African Americans is just excuse making. It seems that you want to have your cake and eat it too.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Search "confound" in this thread. But if there was an option to edit a poll then you'd see it in there.
    Okay, my option is "I don't know, but there isn't any evidence that mental capacity differs between 'races'." As far as physical "competency", that's a very subjective word. What's physically required in one environment is different for another.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Not really. The problem is that there isn't any reliable scientific evidence that mental capacity differs among "races" so believing the certain races have higher mental capacities than others either comes from ignorance or some other non-scientific place.
    in your opinion.
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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    in your opinion.
    No it is not my opinion that there is no reliable scientific evidence that mental capacity differs among races. That is called a fact.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Simply, do you think evolution, with it's supposed changing of humans, left mental and physical competence equal among all races?
    The anti-science Left is pushing nonsense here. They want people to accept the notion that diversity means uniformity.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Then how can we answer the question? We can't study relative intelligence between races if we don't know what races we're discussing.
    The question isn't:

    "What is the relative intelligence between races?"

    You're a bit more clever than others here so I'll give you bonus points.

    The real question is:

    Did evolution leave all races with equal physical and mental competency?"

    My question's a bit more general than your more specific question.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    How is it that environment created the disparities in intelligence when you are arguing that environment plays no role on our measures of intelligence. You have argued that environmental explanations for disparities in the IQ of African Americans is just excuse making. It seems that you want to have your cake and eat it too.
    I think Oscar is just saying that many people accept the fact that different environments can cause a single species to divide and evolve into different physical appearances, so why can't different environments cause a single species to divide and evolve into different variations of mental capacities/ways of thinking, ect?

    I think it's a valid point.

    Or was your comment including a point made by Oscar in a prior post (maybe I missed that)?
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