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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Yes folks, if you compare a truly random sample of IQ tests of blacks, Asians, and whites in the USA..it is likely you wil get results that suggests blacks are dumber than whites..and whites are dumber than Asians.

    But that's because random testing does not take into account the higher percentages of single-family homes, poverty, poor education and other disadvantages that African Americans face.


    The ONLY way one can argue that whites are smart than blacks..and Asians are smarter than whites..is by comparing the IQ exams of thousands of kids from each race, from the EXACT SAME socio-economic & educational status. It would also help to have their parents also have grown up in the same socio-economic status.

    ONLY then, can you have a real good idea if any race may be genetically smarter than the others..or dumber.
    You haven't read the string- just another Ridiculous post

    IQ researchers are OF COURSE aware of bias issues and addressed them.
    Yeah Thunder, the Global Climate researchers too... just go out in the Summer- so assume it's warming .. right?
    Unbelievable.

    Far from "Random" they have not only factored in socio-economic factors they have done Trans-racial adoption studies to take out rearing as well as economics.
    (and tested races on different continents in different economic situations, The Gaps Remain)

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059799904

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    If I take a random sampling of 500 black students and 500 white students and tested them, would I be surprised that the whites score higher? Not at all. I'd bet they would. Not because they are evolutionarily superior though.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Yes folks, if you compare a truly random sample of IQ tests of blacks, Asians, and whites in the USA..it is likely you wil get results that suggests blacks are dumber than whites..and whites are dumber than Asians.

    But that's because random testing does not take into account the higher percentages of single-family homes, poverty, poor education and other disadvantages that African Americans face.

    The ONLY way one can argue that whites are smart than blacks..and Asians are smarter than whites..is by comparing the IQ exams of thousands of kids from each race, from the EXACT SAME socio-economic & educational status. It would also help to have their parents also have grown up in the same socio-economic status.

    ONLY then, can you have a real good idea if any race may be genetically smarter than the others..or dumber.
    I agree that many findings are due to those factors .. however, I am wondering what you think about the adoption studies that were mentioned earlier? Someone posted pieces of an article that seemed hard to argue with - if there is evidence that that study was not done properly or if there are other adoption studies with findings that run contrary to the assertion, please share them as I am more interested in learning what studies are out there, than taking a side in the argument. In one of my previous posts I explained my position regarding the issue.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I agree that many findings are due to those factors .. however, I am wondering what you think about the adoption studies that were mentioned earlier?...
    please link to it. thanks.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Does anyone here consider James D. Watson, and his work? I think he's a brilliant scientist sequestered by the whims of an ignorant and politically correct society.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    That differences in mean IQ scores (just one measure that explains some of Intelligence) have been posted is incomplete information. That one has repeatedly cited the flawed Jansen study that purports to a conclusion despite sampling problems does not furnish that data. That numerous Wiki links have been provided does not furnish that data--Wiki is not peer-reviewed for starters. That some have swapped very narrow, highly-specific areas of difference as a false proxy for claiming statistically significant differences in intelligence (not IQ, but intelligence) exist for the various racial groups proves nothing. Incomplete data and junk science don't cut it.
    This is a good point, significant differences on IQ does not mean one group is "dumber" than another group; instead, it just means that they are better at taking that specific intelligence measure (i.e. the IQ test). I agree that this does not show the whole story, only part of it.

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Does anyone here consider James D. Watson, and his work? I think he's a brilliant scientist sequestered by the whims of an ignorant and politically correct society.
    got any studies of racial intelligence that follow the requirements I mentioned?

    or are they all "random".

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    please link to it. thanks.
    No problem (a link was posted by mbig on this page) - here it is:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059799904

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Does anyone here consider James D. Watson, and his work? I think he's a brilliant scientist sequestered by the whims of an ignorant and politically correct society.
    Why do you like him? Is it because he's so ~edgy~?

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    Re: Did evolution leave all races equal in terms of mental and physical competence?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    No problem (a link was posted by mbig on this page) - here it is:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059799904
    this links me to the top of the last page of the thread.

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