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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    Your math makes no sesne, their still making 30% profit. Cause they alway get the cost of the wiget and then add the profit.
    You have to sell the widgets first.

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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think the solution is pretty easy. put a tariff on all goods made overseas. rewards businesses for manufacturing here in the good ole us of a. i try to buy american whenever possible, and if others did as well they would find what i've found......many, many times the goods produced here are cheaper than the goods produced in china or india. oh, and let's boycott the businesses who outsource their call centers.
    the problem with the adding tariffs is that we have trade agreements in place and you could end up doing more harm than good if you start breaking those and the countries respond in kind.
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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You have to sell the widgets first.
    You have to pay your worker so they can buy your widgets. But you think only of yourself, this is my company, I worked hard to build it right by myself. The workers of my company didn't have any thing to do with it. If this is the way you are thinking you need to think some more.

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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    I think things start going downhill under the first neo-con - Reagan - and we are where we are because of three things:
    * GOP Neo-cons (Reagan, GHWB & GWB) cut taxes on the wealthy and made up the difference by borrowing the money
    * Both parties failed to protect domestic service & manufacturing jobs and to stem the tide of ever-increasing imports
    * GOP neo-con GWB passed a comprehensive bill which mandated the bailing out of banks and corporations. Obama let those fade away rather than renew them.

    As for Obama's part in the mess - he failed to use the period when he had a Democratic Congress to undo the mess GWB left behind, has been ineffective as a leader and is moving far too slowly with measures to create jobs.

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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    You have to pay your worker so they can buy your widgets.
    It'd be a piss poor company if the only people they expect to sell to are their own employees. I'd say it'd be doomed to failure.

    But you think only of yourself, this is my company, I worked hard to build it right by myself.
    The company I ran was a construction company. I was also the foreman of my crew, along with all the other duties I handled off site.

    If this is the way you are thinking you need to think some more.
    I can tell from your well-thought out, completely rational posts that you spend a lot of time thinking. Hey, I give you credit. I usually stop doing things when I'm really bad at them, not do more of it.
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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It'd be a piss poor company if the only people they expect to sell to are their own employees. I'd say it'd be doomed to failure.

    {All companys sell widgets, The important thing is that all the empolyees have the money to buy your widget and other widgets from other companys for the machine to work}



    The company I ran was a construction company. I was also the foreman of my crew, along with all the other duties I handled off site.

    {That is really sad. Are you just and empolyee Of the company or do you own the company or do you run the company. I mean if you run a company, your over all the crews. And if you are just an empolyee then your on the wrong side of this arguement.]



    I can tell from your well-thought out, completely rational posts that you spend a lot of time thinking. Hey, I give you credit. I usually stop doing things when I'm really bad at them, not do more of it.
    so looks like you need some more time to think about it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Obama didn't start it, but he defiantly didn't make it better. While he had the right intentions with Social security and National Healthcare (both of which can work with the strong economy you guys have,) just trying to implement
    them while there is no money to spend because your trying to pull the economy out of the toilet is a bad idea. I am a socialist but $14 trillion in debt is excessive spending, even for a socialist. If he had focused on fixing the economy and then had tried to implement Obamacare and SSC, it would have worked out. But no, he tried to rush it in one term.
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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by dumbasdirt View Post
    so looks like you need some more time to think about it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
    Ah, I see, you are the liberal version of a poe.

    Should have figured it out from the name.

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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Listening to the Tea Party debate i heard non-stop accusations that its Obama's fault for the US's current economic and job problems. What SPECIFICALLY has Obama done to cause or to contribute to the current economic and job crisis, if anything?
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    on top of that add uncertainty - which is a killer. nobody knows what their tax rate is going to be, what their regulatory burden is going to look like, or how much it's going to cost to have an employee in two years - why in the world would they be hiring?

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    Re: Did Obama contribute to the current US economic or employmnt crisis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I think things start going downhill under the first neo-con - Reagan - and we are where we are because of three things:
    * GOP Neo-cons (Reagan, GHWB & GWB) cut taxes on the wealthy and made up the difference by borrowing the money
    mind you, government revenues actually climbed after those tax cuts... but hey, don't bother us with facts!

    Both parties failed to protect domestic service & manufacturing jobs and to stem the tide of ever-increasing imports
    which is why unemployment shot up so high after NAFTA passed, right?

    GOP neo-con GWB passed a comprehensive bill which mandated the bailing out of banks and corporations.
    a very unconservative thing of him to do.

    Obama let those fade away rather than renew them.
    what? Obama has doubled down on those.

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